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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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yeah man how you doing today is monday

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for kjcr the game changer and on nx

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networks racehobbs i am your host jimmy

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church

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what is cracking everybody tonight

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kicking off a new week here on fade to

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black we welcome very special guest

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for

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the interview

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tomorrow night scott walter is here for

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templars and ufos

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wednesday night dave schrader is with us

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we're going to be talking about the rise

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of the gods on marvel

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coming up all of my events

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coming up i'll be speaking at the x

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conference may 13th and 14th

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this is an online event full info

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i will also be hosting disclosure fest

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wow what a day today

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twitter is in the news isn't it you can

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at j church radio the sandbox on twitter

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the breaking news

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offer and making a 38

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this year and when finished

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plane swap today

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two stunt pilots that attempted a first

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onto the web and check out red bull

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plane swap it was

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live on tv let's get this show cracking

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on this day in history otd

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1990

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the crew of the united states space

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shuttle discovery places the hubble

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space telescope a long-term space-based

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observatory

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into a low-earth orbit

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the world changed on that day

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an unnamed

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bought a ring for 13

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i tried to chase down her name nah she

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went anonymous she went fully anonymous

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special guest whitley strieber is here

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calling this the interview whitley and i

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have not done anything on screen on fade

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as with all of our guests this week so

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tonight it's the interview with whitley

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tomorrow night

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scott walter is here for templars

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wednesday night dave schrader is back

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with us he's going to be talking about

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the rise of the gods

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on marvel have you noticed that and so

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last night by the way thursday's another

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with uh open lines all night long

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and uh last night i just got this itch

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stuff i wanted to watch you know sunday

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gods of egypt i'm a man

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i haven't seen that in a while

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i ended up watching gods of egypt last

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why i thought about that oh the rise of

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the gods on marvel

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so there you go all right

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got it right here

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templars and orbs are like peanut butter

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and jelly

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that just popped up in twitter

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rivermoonwellness.com

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river moon wellness fade to black blend

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so

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it actually happened

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after weeks of speculation

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twitter accepted elon musk offer

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honestly there are so many takes

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on what this actually means

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and they're endless

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they're endless

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and i spent a big chunk of my day today

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different comments and and articles and

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what the media had to say about it

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it's uh pretty interesting

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it's pretty interesting what is going on

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anything that anybody has to say

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and i think that even elon

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twitter just tapped out

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just basically saying here you go here

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it is twitter is yours good luck

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and when they had their little meeting

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yesterday and the word was out that the

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board was meeting on sunday

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you know and you have to ask yourself is

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is this is this really going to happen

293
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i don't think anybody thought that it

294
00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:24,079
would

295
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and

296
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that's where it was

297
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but no

298
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twitter's board

299
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unanimously

300
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agreed to say

301
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now

302
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here is the first thing

303
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twitter

304
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will now be owned

305
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and whatever elon decides to do

306
00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:03,590
there will be

307
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very little oversight

308
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,439
by anyone

309
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:09,600
if any

310
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it's his to do with what he will

311
00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:17,679
and the only thing that we can hope for

312
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is that he will do the right thing

313
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:28,150
elon in very short order

314
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,160
has done some pretty amazing things

315
00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:34,320
one he has made

316
00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,120
spacex the dominant player in space

317
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,360
there's no question about this

318
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:43,760
soon if not already

319
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:46,000
he has made the falcon delivery system

320
00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:48,880
the preferred rocket launch vehicle

321
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:53,590
with starlink

322
00:17:59,909 --> 00:17:56,880
he has made and put more satellites in

323
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orbit than any country and in the next

324
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:02,000
couple of years he will absolutely

325
00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:03,200
control

326
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:05,360
his own internet

327
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from space

328
00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:10,240
his battery technology

329
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:13,039
coupled with his car company tesla

330
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dominates the future of the

331
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transportation industry and the home

332
00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:22,789
and now he has made his move to

333
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controlling his corner of social media

334
00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:31,350
that's right

335
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:34,880
how important is twitter

336
00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:37,280
well let me put it to you this way

337
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,440
when was the last time you heard

338
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:41,200
breaking news

339
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:43,200
of any kind

340
00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:49,270
that's right

341
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:52,320
how about youtube well jimmy google owns

342
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:55,120
the internet i'm asking

343
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,039
when was the last time

344
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it just doesn't happen

345
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:01,679
we know this

346
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,200
twitter

347
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,919
is the de facto standard for direct

348
00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:07,760
communication

349
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:09,679
from companies

350
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:10,799
leaders

351
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:13,200
celebrities

352
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and you

353
00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:20,710
now this is where i'm going to speak to

354
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,440
you

355
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,360
very frankly

356
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:25,360
direct

357
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:31,190
if i could do

358
00:19:36,789 --> 00:19:34,320
what elon is doing

359
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:36,799
i would

360
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:44,470
i absolutely would

361
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:47,840
build a rocket ship for mars

362
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:53,909
my own car company

363
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,710
my own satellite constellation

364
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,320
yes sir

365
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:04,880
absolutely

366
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:07,919
my own ai brain controlling interface

367
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:10,559
under the skin chipset

368
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:11,679
sure

369
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:19,990
how about my own social media platform

370
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,510
there is nothing wrong

371
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,360
with anything

372
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,760
that elon has done

373
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:33,360
and you would do it too

374
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:36,400
if you could you would absolutely 100

375
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,870
how he spends his wealth is up to him

376
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,559
and sure

377
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:47,039
he could end world hunger tomorrow and i

378
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,720
see this argument all the time i see it

379
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,559
i see well what about what about what

380
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,400
about what about the starving kids what

381
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,159
about what about electricity for the

382
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,480
world what about heat what about farming

383
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,320
what about disease what about all of

384
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,840
this you know

385
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:02,480
yes

386
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:07,280
he could so could a lot of people

387
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:10,559
and maybe someday he will

388
00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:18,789
there's always a but but

389
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:21,430
he's the world's richest

390
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:23,360
most influential

391
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,480
and famous person

392
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,080
and with that

393
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,720
he can do whatever he wants

394
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,400
and right now

395
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,360
he wants to buy twitter

396
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:36,799
so

397
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:42,230
now

398
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,760
let's get back to the facts of the case

399
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,200
twitter

400
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:49,280
is now private

401
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:55,190
and elon's version

402
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,240
of freedom of speech

403
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,200
may not be yours

404
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:03,120
sounds good too sounds good on paper

405
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,400
doesn't it

406
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,240
absolutely sounds good elon says you

407
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:08,320
know i'm gonna i want the edit button in

408
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,120
there

409
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,400
i want to i want uh the code to be out

410
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,080
there i want everybody to see the code

411
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:17,520
when when tweets are are promoted

412
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,480
or

413
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:20,320
demoted

414
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,120
uh you will see why and who is doing it

415
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:27,840
right does that include elon well it's

416
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:34,950
he can do whatever he wants

417
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,190
controlling the news

418
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,110
he's a rich man

419
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:42,640
uh

420
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:50,310
the fact is

421
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:57,830
that freedom of speech

422
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:00,799
the twitter version

423
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:04,960
is in control of one person

424
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,360
elon musk

425
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:08,960
that

426
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:18,240
we are putting our trust

427
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:24,950
the other fact is

428
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:30,789
all right

429
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:33,280
you get it i hope you do now

430
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:34,159
i

431
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:41,520
yeah

432
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:49,510
he's not

433
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,600
no he's never hit me that way

434
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,360
he is us

435
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:01,440
he's young

436
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:11,590
i was born in 1963. he was born in 1971

437
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:15,120
he is just 50 years old he's not going

438
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,590
he's also somebody with vision

439
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,440
for the future

440
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:28,159
he also smokes weed

441
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,000
right he listens to rock and roll

442
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,880
he seems pretty hip for a geek

443
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,480
he does

444
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:39,279
i think he's pretty funny

445
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,159
i think he's in touch

446
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,080
and his tweets

447
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,120
sometimes controversial are some of the

448
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,960
best

449
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,400
but now

450
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:53,200
almost overnight

451
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,080
he's in the position to become

452
00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:59,120
the king of the world

453
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:02,320
now this goes way beyond gates

454
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,000
it goes way beyond a zuckerberg or a

455
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:08,320
bezos

456
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,039
elon truly owns a chunk

457
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:12,799
of each corner

458
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:15,679
of our world's future

459
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:21,669
the question is

460
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:25,360
what's next right what do you do

461
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,799
what do you do

462
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:28,480
i mean elon

463
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,520
has pretty much bought done and created

464
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,320
everything that you can right

465
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,320
what's left

466
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:38,320
well i guess

467
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:46,549
which technically cannot be done yet but

468
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,440
uh

469
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:49,600
but if anyone can figure it out

470
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,360
you know and how to start snapping up

471
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,240
countries and one by one it'll be elon

472
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:56,640
for sure and honestly i don't think

473
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,600
anything is wrong with that either

474
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:01,919
if a country wants to sell and the

475
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,400
citizens of the country say cool

476
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,789
that's where we are right now

477
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:12,880
i mean you can only buy so many planes

478
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:15,440
islands rockets

479
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,960
you know shoes guitars

480
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,279
the natural next step is your own

481
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,480
country or two or three

482
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:26,559
two years ago

483
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:30,799
elon was worth about 27 billion dollars

484
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:34,159
two years ago 2020 two years ago 27

485
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,360
billion dollars

486
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,679
24 months later

487
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:39,760
he's now north

488
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:44,400
of 300 billion dollars in climbing

489
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:47,200
the next level well

490
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:50,480
he'll be the first trillionaire

491
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,679
give it a few months

492
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:56,640
just to put all of this in focus for you

493
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,360
canada's gnp

494
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:01,679
for 2021

495
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,200
was 1.6 trillion dollars

496
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:07,679
and they are currently

497
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,000
the 10th strongest country in the world

498
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:15,600
at 1.6 trillion elon will pass up the

499
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:17,919
maple leaf in a year or so

500
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,039
crazy yeah maybe

501
00:27:23,950 --> 00:27:23,039
but he's already richer

502
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:23,960
than

503
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:31,590
today's twitter purchase has let us all

504
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:32,720
know

505
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,279
elon can do whatever he wants

506
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:39,440
so

507
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:43,840
how much power and wealth is too much

508
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:46,840
how much should just one individual

509
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,640
have that's a lot of power

510
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:52,960
well it's too late for that

511
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,760
it's too late for that we've moved way

512
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,559
beyond any chance for consideration here

513
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,720
that's it he's wrestle control of the

514
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,399
world

515
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:04,080
that's right

516
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:07,760
elon musk is now king of the world

517
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,000
and most of us are okay with it

518
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:14,399
and we just didn't see it coming

519
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,039
we didn't just kind of snuck up on us

520
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:21,520
the whole thing was just so well played

521
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:27,190
now don't act shocked

522
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:30,480
or surprised by any of it

523
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,200
and when e.t lands and they will

524
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,760
they won't say take me to your leader

525
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,600
nope

526
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:41,679
it'll be

527
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:48,549
and i'm okay with that too

528
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,909
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:54,960
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530
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:56,240
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531
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:59,679
on this program whitley strieber joins

532
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,559
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00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:03,120
for the interview tomorrow night scott

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am your host jimmy church

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tonight whitley strieber joins us

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tonight

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whitley joins us for the interview it's

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the first time we are both on screen at

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the same time here fade to black very

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excited about that

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as someone who has changed our world

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whitley is one of the most iconic

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cultural figures of our time

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he is the author of the communion series

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of books and many novels ranging from

625
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the wolfen and the hunger to the greys

626
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and the alien hunter series communion

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the wolfen and the hunger and superstorm

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have all been made into movies

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tomorrow his websites unknowncountry.com

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and streamer.com are right there on

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social media and also over on our

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website

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and i would like to welcome back to fade

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to black the one and only

636
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whitley strieber whitley

637
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good evening young man how you doing

638
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good evening how are you it's good to

639
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see you

640
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,159
good to be back

641
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whitley this is the first time we have

642
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been on screen together after all of

643
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these years

644
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i'm wondering am i dying i

645
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you've got color

646
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well anyway we'll i'll play with it i

647
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can play with it

648
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whitley um

649
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uh

650
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a very strange day in in the media and

651
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for the world uh it was announced today

652
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that uh elon musk is indeed

653
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buying twitter twitter is going to go

654
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private and will be in fully

655
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,240
uh uh fully controlled by one man and

656
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,640
that is elon musk

657
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um would you what'd you think about the

658
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,119
news as it as it broke today

659
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:27,520
well uh it's just breaking in my life

660
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,839
right now

661
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so i

662
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i don't care frankly he'll probably

663
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,520
screw it up somehow but he's also a

664
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,440
genius so it might be

665
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you know i guess whether you bring back

666
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,040
donald trump to twitter and

667
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,599
all those guys

668
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:47,839
that's part of the part of it

669
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:48,560
yeah

670
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,680
there's some chatter going on uh out

671
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there too as well

672
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:56,960
um it's just

673
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in in in my opinion and

674
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we've never been

675
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quite in a situation like this where a

676
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:06,640
private citizen

677
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,920
is in control of so much so quickly yeah

678
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:12,720
well he's a very wealthy man and though

679
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,760
he's also been lucky and all and and is

680
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a genius

681
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and

682
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all of his things have most all of his

683
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,960
things have worked out fairly well one

684
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way or another

685
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and uh he'll

686
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,599
i guess he'll

687
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i mean i hadn't really thought about it

688
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i

689
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uh

690
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you know i'm focusing

691
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,480
my focus isn't on the outside world very

692
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much i mean i'm really involved with the

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visitors and

694
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i can tell you immediately they couldn't

695
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:49,520
care less what happens well

696
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okay

697
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let me let me let's go right there

698
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the uh

699
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the the line

700
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take me to your leader right how many

701
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what if they said

702
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where's elon

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they won't

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and and why not

705
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because they're not interested in that

706
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they're interested in individuals

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uh they're interested in

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in

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people

710
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of which there are very very many more

711
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than we realize

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and

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they don't care about

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at least as far as i'm concerned i mean

715
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there may be some who are different but

716
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the ones i'm with just are

717
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in a completely different headspace they

718
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you know i'd be amazed if they even knew

719
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what

720
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who elon musk was unless he's

721
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,720
they're into him in some way which he

722
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,400
that could be

723
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,640
but uh they're not

724
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it's just it's it's just a completely

725
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different reality

726
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it isn't this at all

727
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and you know they i guess they

728
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my main worry is

729
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they're they're we're gonna blow

730
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ourselves up before they know there's a

731
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problem

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and and we're not too far from that with

733
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the

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putin

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uh fulminating and

736
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,920
they're you know the thing about them is

737
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:26,000
that some of them are primarily

738
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,720
interested in souls that

739
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,119
we don't know we have souls

740
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:33,520
because we can't feel them

741
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,119
and you have to learn it takes you a

742
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,839
long time to learn how to feel your soul

743
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,440
but uh

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00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,920
once you do know that then you become

745
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:44,079
real concerned

746
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,200
about

747
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,280
you know what what's going to happen to

748
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:48,800
you after you die

749
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:51,440
but the 99 of people in the western

750
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,079
world will give lip service to that but

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00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:56,320
they do not know it

752
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:58,320
the visitors are there that's their

753
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,440
world

754
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:02,640
and they want

755
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,720
screwed up souls as much as any i mean

756
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,400
they want everything

757
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:08,800
so when somebody goes bad

758
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,240
there's going to be someone on the other

759
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,320
side who wants that

760
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,880
and it ain't gonna be pretty

761
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:16,160
and uh

762
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,839
you have to work very hard

763
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,760
toward the good

764
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:25,200
in order

765
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:25,920
to

766
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,880
do like my wife did and ascend

767
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,800
i saw her do it

768
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,960
and that's all i really am interested in

769
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,040
right now i'm not interested in the

770
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,200
outside world much anymore at all

771
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,640
elon musk

772
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,160
bill clinton

773
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:42,240
or is is he dead he could be i don't

774
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,680
know

775
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,040
i'm real concerned about what's going on

776
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,520
in the inner world my inner world and

777
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:51,440
the inner world

778
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,480
uh

779
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:54,560
of the people around me that's my

780
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:56,000
concern

781
00:40:05,750 --> 00:39:56,800
the

782
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,760
in in individuals and i think you said

783
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:07,040
that there's

784
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,640
many more than

785
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,359
than we even think um

786
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:13,760
at the individual level

787
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,680
who are the visitors interested in

788
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:19,680
that's a really good question i wish i

789
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,079
could answer it in a simple way

790
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,599
i haven't seen any significant pattern

791
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:27,599
they first of all there's lots of

792
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:29,680
different entities out there

793
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:32,640
i personally have interacted with

794
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:35,760
the little gray insectoid people

795
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,280
uh these dark blue trolls that seem to

796
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,200
to kind of

797
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,520
hang with them and uh

798
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,280
maybe another

799
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:47,040
level of humanity in other words they

800
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:48,880
may be human beings

801
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:52,880
and uh i've seen um

802
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,599
i me i saw one of these so-called mantis

803
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:58,000
things but only very briefly and it was

804
00:41:02,550 --> 00:40:59,839
not huge it was small

805
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:02,560
i mean it was about five feet long

806
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,079
and uh and blondes i've seen a number of

807
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,920
those and have interacted fairly

808
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,000
extensively with them at some one point

809
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:11,359
in my life

810
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,760
um and they were concerned about this

811
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,880
world

812
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:16,480
but i think they i'm pretty sure they

813
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:18,000
might have gotten their asses thrown out

814
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,359
of here

815
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:21,280
because you don't see them anymore

816
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:23,119
they're not they don't seem to be either

817
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,640
they left or

818
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:26,079
gave up and

819
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,680
or got thrown i don't know what happened

820
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,319
to them but i had a long conversation

821
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,839
with one of them once about the

822
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,720
environment and they were real

823
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,240
interested in the book i had written

824
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,800
about it called nature's end

825
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:39,760
and

826
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:43,200
pissed me off that saying that they

827
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:44,640
helped me with the book

828
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,400
now i understand how that works but at

829
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:49,040
the time i thought help me with my book

830
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:50,079
i didn't even

831
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,680
see you i've never

832
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,280
heard of you before

833
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,599
but you know and and this

834
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:57,680
and uh

835
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:58,560
so

836
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,720
you know they may be more concerned with

837
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:03,359
our world than the others but i don't

838
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,160
think the others

839
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,319
i know one military man who was right

840
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,040
he's dead now who was it at right field

841
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,760
who not my uncle another one and not art

842
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,880
excellent

843
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,480
but when i ca i don't want to say his

844
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,079
name because i'm

845
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,480
i'm just always concerned that there's

846
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,560
all kinds of

847
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,800
insane

848
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,200
crap going on around this whole area

849
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:29,119
right now anyway he held

850
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,480
one of those

851
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:32,240
beings in his arms

852
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,119
dead

853
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:35,200
and he said it was just definitely a

854
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:38,160
large insect very large insect

855
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:41,040
about two and a half or three feet long

856
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:42,640
and he said there's no question in my

857
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,119
mind it was an insect and it stank

858
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:48,400
horribly it had a horrible odor

859
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:49,520
and

860
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:53,920
he said the fact that they were in this

861
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,190
he said it almost felt to him like they

862
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:00,960
were

863
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,560
something that was being carried that

864
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,480
they weren't in control of anything but

865
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,440
he didn't see one alive there were some

866
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,440
people who did interact with them when

867
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,880
they were alive and felt like they were

868
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,720
really pretty awesome

869
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,640
but uh

870
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,960
that's all i know about that i i don't

871
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:23,520
know i and i don't think that

872
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,079
someone who has probably got a communal

873
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:27,599
mind

874
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:30,319
and maybe a very

875
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,240
ancient mind and because if you have a

876
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,680
communal mind what is your memory like

877
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,560
because it's housed in

878
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:41,520
millions or billions conceivably of

879
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:43,119
individuals

880
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:44,000
so

881
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:48,400
computer memory

882
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:50,079
and it might be

883
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:53,680
the it might be the the logic

884
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,760
becomes a very very different process

885
00:44:02,309 --> 00:43:58,880
when you

886
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,319
massive

887
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,240
deployment of memory

888
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,000
when when when

889
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:09,040
memory is essentially infinite it may be

890
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,079
that the nature of logic changes

891
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,079
and this would explain to me why they

892
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:16,880
seem to be quite insane

893
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:22,870
for the communion audiobook that's

894
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,680
coming out as soon as i can get it

895
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,319
get it out uh i've been

896
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,800
hassled by so many interruptions but

897
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,000
it's finished except for the

898
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:33,680
introduction

899
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:34,839
so

900
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:39,599
that happened in the old days i have not

901
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,800
read communion since i wrote it

902
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:44,880
and i did that because

903
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:48,960
i wanted to wait 10 or 20 years

904
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:51,040
to see what my i actually still

905
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,319
remembered

906
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,800
right it turned out i waited nearly 30

907
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,920
years

908
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,839
and i i remembered certain things i

909
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:00,000
remembered the original incident i

910
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,359
remembered something that happened the

911
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,119
previous october

912
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,520
uh and i remember them very exactly

913
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:07,280
their the memories are the same now as

914
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,800
they were then

915
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,400
but and there was an incident that

916
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:13,040
happened in march of 1986

917
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:14,720
that i still remember

918
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:16,720
but more vaguely

919
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:17,440
and

920
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:20,400
one of my son's little friends was there

921
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:23,680
the house and it was sunset and she's

922
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,400
suddenly says

923
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,720
a little airplane flew through the front

924
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:30,880
covered with lights through flew through

925
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:33,680
just flew through the front yard

926
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,119
and i said uh annie and i looked at each

927
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:39,520
other we hadn't seen this

928
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,960
and you know so we called her parents

929
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,560
we'd already told her parents what had

930
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,560
happened to me we wouldn't have a child

931
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,560
up there otherwise the parents all the

932
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,480
parents were oh don't worry about it

933
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,240
we're we're good with our kids coming up

934
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,440
there

935
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,880
they were much more interested in a

936
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,920
weekend

937
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:58,240
without their kids than they were and

938
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,800
whether or not their kids be suborned by

939
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:02,319
aliens because they didn't really

940
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:03,760
believe the aliens were real they

941
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,800
thought that

942
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:05,680
stuff

943
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,079
so anyway um

944
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:10,079
i called her dad and she said he said

945
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,520
she knows nothing about flying saucers

946
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,839
or anything like that neither did our

947
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,520
son we didn't talk about this with him

948
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,400
of course he's seven years old

949
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,160
so i said to annie you know i think i've

950
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,079
been trying that was when i started

951
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,720
going out in the woods and trying to

952
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,280
signal to them that i was ready for more

953
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,280
not because i wasn't scared of them that

954
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,119
is far from true

955
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,359
but because

956
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,680
that damn they were real

957
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:39,839
they were real

958
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,040
and they had ended up screwing around

959
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,800
with me and i'm i was really interested

960
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,560
i hadn't started writing communion at

961
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,880
that point i hadn't occurred i had we

962
00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:52,640
were talking about it but well i hadn't

963
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:54,319
started writing it

964
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,160
but what happened when they came

965
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,880
they held up a

966
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:01,680
a

967
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:05,839
cutout or something

968
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,640
i mean it was just bizarre

969
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,040
incomprehensible

970
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,960
i know i never saw anything like it it

971
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,440
made no sense whatsoever

972
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,599
and i'd say i describe it in communion

973
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:19,760
and and that's why i think you know

974
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,280
there's a huge gulf between us

975
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:24,480
huge

976
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:27,760
they thought that would make sense to me

977
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,720
and

978
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:30,480
that was not true

979
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:32,079
was not true

980
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:36,000
so therefore i think conversely

981
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:37,599
when we think they

982
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,480
you know we

983
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:41,359
there's some cat out there saying oh

984
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:42,880
uh

985
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,680
they're

986
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,160
following donald trump's airplane so it

987
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:49,200
won't get shot down give me a break

988
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:53,599
right care they don't i would be amazed

989
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,720
if they could do more than pretend

990
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:59,040
to know the difference between

991
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,720
politician a

992
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:03,119
and politician b

993
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,480
i think if you

994
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,640
you gave them a lineup

995
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,599
and it was mother teresa hitler

996
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:11,520
uh

997
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,800
roosevelt

998
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:14,880
and gandhi

999
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,359
they would not even be able to tell the

1000
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:19,680
difference between these individuals as

1001
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,559
people

1002
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:21,839
unless

1003
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,200
they had been able to get into contact

1004
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,800
with their souls

1005
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,880
then they would know them more

1006
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,119
completely than any human being in the

1007
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:33,920
history of this world has ever known

1008
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:37,119
anyone else or himself

1009
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:40,559
what was it like i'm excited uh about

1010
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,440
the

1011
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,839
audiobook for communion

1012
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:44,880
and

1013
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,319
what was it like to every time i read

1014
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,400
communion i get something else out of it

1015
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:51,920
and

1016
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,200
for you

1017
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,440
what was that like to go

1018
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,520
uh this is going to be good stuff in

1019
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:00,000
your voice that's it's going to be

1020
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:03,839
tremendous but what was it like to uh to

1021
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,880
to read the book again

1022
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,910
well the first thing is it's well

1023
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,079
written i was happy about that and i you

1024
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:16,480
know because i'm so obsessive i've

1025
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:20,400
written the introduction 56 times so far

1026
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,119
and it's only 13 pages i wrote communion

1027
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,240
about 25 or 30 times i think and it and

1028
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,839
i had annie to help me which was

1029
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,440
wonderful because she was a really good

1030
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,640
editor

1031
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,920
and uh

1032
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:35,280
so

1033
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,200
morrow jim landis was a wonderful editor

1034
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:41,040
so i had two editors on my side now i

1035
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,640
don't have any

1036
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,800
but uh it's a good book

1037
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:46,640
well written

1038
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:49,599
and it lays it out very clearly i don't

1039
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,000
think there's too much in it that's

1040
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,640
i'm you know i'm very iffy about

1041
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,640
the memory certain memories especially

1042
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,640
in the secret school

1043
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,240
but uh

1044
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,319
i'm not iffy too much about any things

1045
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:04,480
in communion i think it it's pretty

1046
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:05,520
accurate

1047
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:08,079
because especially some of them

1048
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,920
the first memory of which october of uh

1049
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,440
85

1050
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:15,280
jacques sandelastu and annie gottlieb

1051
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,480
were there

1052
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:18,960
and they witnessed this extremely

1053
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,720
strange experience

1054
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,960
and annie's still very much alive jock

1055
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,720
sadly enough has

1056
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,520
left us for the the great boxing ring in

1057
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,520
the sky he was a big boxer

1058
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,359
and or maybe it was wrestling i forgot

1059
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,599
anyway uh and he's still very much with

1060
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,280
us and she vividly remembers what

1061
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,400
happened and there's a documentary

1062
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,400
coming up on the travel channel i

1063
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,559
believe where she talks about it very

1064
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:44,640
frequently for so that you know when you

1065
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,839
have witnesses annie remembered stuff

1066
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:50,160
and he got lib remembered stuff jacques

1067
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,599
remembered stuff and our little boy

1068
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:53,119
remembered stuff

1069
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,559
so that happened

1070
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,000
that happened

1071
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,119
then i then comes december

1072
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:02,160
and if you read and this was fascinating

1073
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,200
to me

1074
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,079
i read annie's hypnosis session with dr

1075
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,480
robert neyman for the first time

1076
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,559
since it was

1077
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,760
happened

1078
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,920
and i thought my

1079
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:15,520
god

1080
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:20,000
this is a woman trying to hide something

1081
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,440
she's trying

1082
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:23,119
not to say

1083
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:25,839
things that she remembers and she's

1084
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,920
telling us that she thinks she shouldn't

1085
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:32,240
that and there was you can feel the

1086
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,680
presence

1087
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:35,680
of something there

1088
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,960
that is telling annie not to

1089
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,160
say

1090
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:42,160
what she remembers

1091
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,079
it's fascinating and incredibly eerie

1092
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:51,190
so

1093
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:57,440
the night of december the 25th 85.

1094
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,359
but and this i had completely forgotten

1095
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:04,319
one of the son of one of our friends who

1096
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:05,599
lived up there

1097
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,520
saw a ufo that night a big color lighted

1098
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:12,559
ufo that night and told me about it

1099
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:13,359
after

1100
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,520
asking everyone in the neighborhood if

1101
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,440
they'd seen anything

1102
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,760
and i had that it's in the book but i've

1103
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,599
forgotten about it but here's the

1104
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:25,119
interesting thing

1105
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,200
a year later his dad came to me

1106
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,680
and says whitley i i want to tell you

1107
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:33,440
something

1108
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,559
i think i saw you that night i think my

1109
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,280
wife and i saw you that night

1110
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,200
and i thought what

1111
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,960
is he going to say

1112
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,040
because i was buck naked

1113
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,880
and they took semen out of me i was

1114
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,119
screaming like crazy they didn't see any

1115
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,359
that they were coming

1116
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,000
to the back to our houses

1117
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:56,160
and

1118
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,359
they saw what they looked like

1119
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,760
a blimp in a field near our houses

1120
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:03,839
hanging over the snow at the edge of the

1121
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:05,839
far edge of the field

1122
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,750
maybe i better stop

1123
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:15,040
because

1124
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,640
there could be something wrong i mean

1125
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,119
there should be a blimp out there

1126
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,760
so he stops he gets out of the car goes

1127
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,200
over the fence

1128
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,280
is walking toward it and he hears

1129
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,599
screaming inside it

1130
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:29,760
that's me

1131
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,000
assume because it was at that morning it

1132
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,400
was about two o'clock that morning

1133
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:36,720
so he starts to run toward it whereupon

1134
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,520
lights come on all over it and it starts

1135
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:41,280
making a growling noise and moving

1136
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,640
toward him

1137
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,720
and he said very frankly we got out of

1138
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,559
there with lynn i'm i'm

1139
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,200
i i should i really feel i should have

1140
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,960
helped you tried to help you

1141
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,640
i said to him

1142
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:55,280
you were make the right decision

1143
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,680
because i think if you tried to help me

1144
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:59,599
we would not be having this conversation

1145
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,400
now

1146
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,800
because you'd be on planet zyklon in a

1147
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,079
cage

1148
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:06,079
so

1149
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,839
anyway

1150
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,599
uh

1151
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,119
he um

1152
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,040
so he was a witness

1153
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,440
so those are all witnesses

1154
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,440
and some of my other neighbors saw

1155
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,800
lights

1156
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,240
so

1157
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,160
that happened

1158
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,000
and probably pretty much as i remember

1159
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,400
it because i remember being hurt i

1160
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:27,839
remember being

1161
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,000
uh you know when i say i'd forgotten

1162
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,079
this too i say in the beginning of

1163
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,559
communion i was raped

1164
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,400
i say that word raped i did not know

1165
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:37,520
that

1166
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,839
i in in the hypnosis session i describe

1167
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,760
it as a rectal probe

1168
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:48,480
now you think of all those

1169
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:49,680
bastards

1170
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:52,000
who have gone out there and made jokes

1171
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,160
about the rectal probe

1172
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,160
knowing

1173
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:58,160
i thought they didn't realize it was a

1174
00:55:04,950 --> 00:54:59,280
rape

1175
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:04,960
the book and you have to ask yourself

1176
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:07,839
why would anyone go to that length

1177
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,160
to to demean themselves to laugh

1178
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,680
in public

1179
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:16,079
at another person's rape

1180
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:17,280
why

1181
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:20,480
it took me more than 20 years

1182
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:22,240
for those injuries

1183
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:25,520
to stop causing me pain

1184
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,680
20 years that injury was that severe

1185
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,160
and it's not a joke

1186
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,720
you know if these cats who make rectal

1187
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:36,880
probe jokes jokes on tv and stuff all

1188
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,319
the time that they're used to

1189
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:43,200
had done that and it was a woman and not

1190
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,160
man

1191
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:46,640
right they would be out of this they

1192
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:50,240
would be out the door immediately

1193
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,200
so i i thought to myself

1194
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,760
that's what they call bullying in this

1195
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,200
world

1196
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,680
they bullied the hell out of me

1197
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,880
and i got

1198
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:03,040
as i was reading community like matter

1199
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:04,720
and matter and matter at the way i'd

1200
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:06,240
been treated

1201
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,599
but you know i'm a tough barnacle

1202
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,599
and this happened

1203
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:14,799
and i'm not shutting up

1204
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:17,119
and i'm not going away

1205
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:22,069
the

1206
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,319
much deeper in this

1207
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,359
you want i'll i'll take this

1208
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,359
and and whitley you said something that

1209
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:37,760
grabbed me you said

1210
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,680
that we have souls we just don't know it

1211
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,200
that's right we can't feel them because

1212
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:45,839
our bodies are so thick

1213
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,480
can can you expand on that

1214
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,880
now we're going into break

1215
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,880
we've got all night but here's the thing

1216
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:54,240
i'm going to be thinking about this

1217
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:55,359
tonight

1218
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:56,880
in the dark

1219
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,000
and you know when my brain goes active

1220
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,920
and we all do this right i'm going to

1221
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:03,599
think about that's a

1222
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,640
just a profound set of words young man

1223
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,240
we have souls

1224
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:10,559
we just don't know it

1225
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,359
well you can find out you have a soul

1226
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,880
wow

1227
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,799
it takes time

1228
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,880
a lot of time and it has to do with the

1229
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,000
body

1230
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,559
uh you you can you can if you become

1231
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,799
sensitive enough to the

1232
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,839
to your body to you will also eventually

1233
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,079
become aware of the existence of the

1234
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:33,359
feel of the way your soul feels

1235
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:35,760
thinking about it doesn't help

1236
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:39,359
it's a work it's a waste of time

1237
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:42,720
you can learn to sense your soul

1238
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:44,799
you can feel it as a kind of vibration

1239
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:47,040
you can feel it very clearly over

1240
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,319
time

1241
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,280
and you can know by the way it feels to

1242
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:53,520
what condition it's in

1243
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:55,520
and you know everybody is going to be

1244
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,559
thinking

1245
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,640
i have a screwed up soul for sure i've

1246
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,119
done this and i've done that

1247
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:03,280
it's real hard to screw up your soul it

1248
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:04,799
takes work

1249
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,400
and you know you

1250
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,720
you steal a car you

1251
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,079
you um

1252
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:13,040
beat somebody up or you get drunk and

1253
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,480
or you two time on your wife or husband

1254
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,720
it doesn't matter we walk away from that

1255
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,240
when they die

1256
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:22,559
you have to work hard you have to

1257
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,040
willfully destroy other lives needlessly

1258
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,079
and then your soul starts to get heavier

1259
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,040
and heavier and heavier

1260
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:35,280
until finally

1261
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:37,359
when you die

1262
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,280
it falls out like a rock

1263
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:43,680
and down it goes

1264
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,240
and he said to me afterwards after she

1265
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,160
passed away

1266
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,040
i said what happens to the evil

1267
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,119
she said nothing

1268
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,000
and i thought nothing

1269
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:58,799
they they get off scot-free right right

1270
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:02,240
then i realized what that means

1271
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:06,319
there is an opportunity to ascend

1272
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:09,040
that is the most precious thing

1273
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:11,119
in this universe

1274
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:14,720
that a living being can possess

1275
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,990
nothing happens to you you just you're

1276
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:23,359
gone

1277
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:24,319
wow

1278
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:27,520
guest tonight

1279
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:30,400
whitley strieber whitley great start

1280
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,520
we're going to come back we're going to

1281
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,119
discuss souls

1282
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,200
this is fade to black i am your host

1283
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,880
jimmy church tonight whitley strieber is

1284
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,960
with us tomorrow night right here scott

1285
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,000
walter

1286
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,240
wednesday night dave schrader is here

1287
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,559
and then thursday night of course

1288
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,359
is fader night with open lines all night

1289
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,280
long i'm your host jimmy church we'll be

1290
00:59:54,610 --> 00:59:51,760
right back after this short break more

1291
01:00:09,589 --> 00:59:54,620
with whitley strieber stay with us

1292
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:11,750
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1293
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:15,280
on the game changer radio network

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damn it

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jimmy church and fade to black on the

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1318
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,280
listen i know and you know that you've

1319
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:19,680
always wanted your first crystal skull

1320
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,920
or maybe you're a collector just like me

1321
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,079
but you just don't know where to go to

1322
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:25,920
find the real thing

1323
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:28,559
then i met carolyn ford over at einstein

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1330
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,599
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1331
01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,319
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receiving the ancient wisdom from the

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hi race hobbes with the x obviously if

1344
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:22,960
you're listening to this you have an

1345
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,280
interest in unexplained phenomena like

1346
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ghosts bigfoot and ufos and by now you

1347
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,039
know that we have our own ex-blog the

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01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:09,760
as we set out to explain the unexplained

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1391
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:54,390
all right welcome back fade to black i

1392
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:55,920
am your host jimmy church tonight

1393
01:05:00,390 --> 01:04:58,400
whitley strieber is with us

1394
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,400
tomorrow night scott walter right here

1395
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:01,920
on this program and then wednesday night

1396
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,000
dave schrader thursday night

1397
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:06,880
is another fader night with open lines

1398
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:10,000
all night long tonight it's it's whitley

1399
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,400
and i'm very excited about this because

1400
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:13,839
whitley and i

1401
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:16,079
uh over the years on fade to black it's

1402
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:19,440
only been me and and tonight we're

1403
01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:21,760
joined uh

1404
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:24,799
by video finally whitley

1405
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:26,960
yeah that's great yeah it is it's

1406
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:30,240
fantastic and now talking about the soul

1407
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:31,359
and

1408
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:33,520
um this uh

1409
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,480
this popped up uh a little bit ago let

1410
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:38,880
me let me go back and grab it because

1411
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:42,400
this was my next question

1412
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,799
to you and this popped up uh from cindy

1413
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:48,960
she says does whitley distinguish

1414
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:51,200
between consciousness

1415
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:54,319
and the soul that is a great question

1416
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,599
and i think that

1417
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:57,359
this ponder this

1418
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:00,559
whitley is there a difference yeah

1419
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:03,280
there's a huge difference

1420
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:06,480
the soul is a concentration

1421
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:10,559
of consciousness that reflects the

1422
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:12,880
a particular body

1423
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:15,760
anybody from a protozoan to

1424
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:19,920
something beyond us and it is a

1425
01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:22,000
it's in consciousness

1426
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:24,079
but it is also separate

1427
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:24,799
and

1428
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:28,240
into it unto itself the best way to

1429
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:29,200
think of

1430
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,280
this is that that it's holographic

1431
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:35,440
in the sense that the the smallest bit

1432
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:38,559
of it potentially contains the whole

1433
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:41,359
uh and at the same time

1434
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:44,559
is its own individual thing

1435
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:46,400
but that's a good question it's a very

1436
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,280
good question i'm amazed in fact it's a

1437
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,119
fabulous question

1438
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,359
the um

1439
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,000
the egyptians i don't want to go off on

1440
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,760
a tangent here

1441
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:58,640
but

1442
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,880
yeah egyptians and you know i'm gonna

1443
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:02,559
already i'm gonna go off on a tangent if

1444
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:04,880
you're not careful so i'm warned go

1445
01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:06,000
ahead

1446
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,720
is is that you know they got the scales

1447
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:11,280
right and you've got a feather there and

1448
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,440
you you place your soul uh on on the

1449
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,640
scale and you get weighed

1450
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:21,119
right there it's not your consciousness

1451
01:07:26,829 --> 01:07:23,920
that they put on the the the scale

1452
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:26,839
it's it's your soul

1453
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:29,520
and i can describe to you what it's like

1454
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,760
when you're out of your body because i i

1455
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,720
am

1456
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,880
much too wild a hair to get out of my

1457
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:36,640
body on my own i learned that a long

1458
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:37,760
time ago

1459
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:38,640
because

1460
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,000
i i got someone said to me before i

1461
01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:44,160
wrote communion after i was talking to

1462
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:46,079
people about what happened

1463
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:47,760
that well maybe you had it maybe it was

1464
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:49,440
an out of body thing that happened i

1465
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,359
mean it wasn't physical because i wasn't

1466
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,200
telling them about what the problems i

1467
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:55,200
was having with my ass i only told the

1468
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,559
doctor that

1469
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,319
man

1470
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,160
so they didn't know about that and i

1471
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:02,079
thought i had never heard of outer body

1472
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,160
experiences before

1473
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,079
so i

1474
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,400
researched it a little bit and got bob

1475
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:11,520
monroe's book journeys out of the body

1476
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,799
read it

1477
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:15,039
and there in that edition of it anyway

1478
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:16,880
there were instructions at the end as to

1479
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,960
how to have an obe

1480
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:20,880
and i was trying that one night and all

1481
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:22,239
of a sudden

1482
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,440
it worked i came out of my body

1483
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:27,440
i should have known that i didn't do it

1484
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:29,359
myself i but i thought i had done it

1485
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:30,880
myself

1486
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,839
and i was able to experience a

1487
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:35,040
completely

1488
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:37,199
total complete and total separation from

1489
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,880
my body could last about 10 15 minutes

1490
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:42,560
i mean i could have gone

1491
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,040
i decided to go back into it it wasn't

1492
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:47,199
it was i could have stayed out longer

1493
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,759
and gone more places but

1494
01:08:53,669 --> 01:08:51,199
i went out in the front yard i went

1495
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:53,679
through the window and in the wall and

1496
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,600
into the front yard

1497
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:58,319
and i was thinking to myself

1498
01:09:04,470 --> 01:08:59,920
you know i don't want any to wake up in

1499
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:07,510
i'm not sure what's going on here but

1500
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,799
here's the thing

1501
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:10,640
i was me

1502
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:13,679
i had my

1503
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:16,560
i had a a lot of my memories i knew who

1504
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:19,520
i was i knew i had a name whitley

1505
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:22,560
i i don't know of course as ann and i we

1506
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:24,640
we used to talk about that and she would

1507
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:27,279
say well whitley you don't know you when

1508
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:29,279
you were out of your body you couldn't

1509
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:30,480
know

1510
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,159
what memories you left in your brain

1511
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,480
and weren't you didn't have them anymore

1512
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,400
because you didn't you would not be able

1513
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:40,400
to feel the forgetting

1514
01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:43,359
but i felt nice like myself i felt my i

1515
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:44,719
was whole

1516
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,440
completely whole outside of my body

1517
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,839
and i looked down at my body lying there

1518
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:51,600
in the bed

1519
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,910
wow

1520
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:57,840
look at that thing

1521
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:00,560
it's really beautiful

1522
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:03,440
it's beautiful and annie lying beside it

1523
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,880
looked like she was

1524
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:05,920
glowing

1525
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:08,640
with pearlescent light i was

1526
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,719
and i thought my word i mean i can

1527
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:12,800
understand why someone would come after

1528
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:15,360
these bodies they're beautiful

1529
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:17,120
they're much more beautiful when you're

1530
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,640
in that state than

1531
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,000
not

1532
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:23,120
so then i tried to get back into it

1533
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,159
and

1534
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:26,080
i slid out of it it was like it was

1535
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,360
mercury or it was like an it was like a

1536
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,360
metal inside a

1537
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:33,360
very shiny

1538
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,400
kind of

1539
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:36,400
liquid metal and i kept falling out of

1540
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:37,600
it

1541
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:41,679
now streamer you

1542
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:44,560
screw around with all this crazy stuff

1543
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:47,440
and now you now you can't get back into

1544
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,840
your damn body and i'm trying to get

1545
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:51,440
back into it

1546
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:53,600
all of a sudden

1547
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:56,320
i'm in my front yard at the age of about

1548
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,440
10

1549
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,159
and my dad's mowing the lawn

1550
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,920
and he says he looks at me and says when

1551
01:11:06,149 --> 01:11:03,760
are you going to come help me

1552
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:06,159
i was instantly back in my body at i

1553
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:07,600
don't know how i got there but i was

1554
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,719
back

1555
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:10,560
and because there's no damn way i hated

1556
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,360
mowing that lawn more than anything

1557
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,600
and you know he'd always

1558
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,679
say you sat sunday saturday morning

1559
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:19,840
you're going to mow the lawn witty

1560
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:21,520
and i just couldn't get out of bed and

1561
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,120
then i'd hear the lawnmower start and

1562
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:25,440
realize he's out there doing it in order

1563
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:27,280
to make me feel bad

1564
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:28,320
yep

1565
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:35,280
it's funny um my dad and i uh

1566
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,760
after his second divorce we're living

1567
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,199
alone right

1568
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:40,800
father and son

1569
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,520
and this big lawn

1570
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:46,080
like half acre right

1571
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:49,040
and all i saw was football with my

1572
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:51,440
friends in the backyard what i didn't

1573
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,560
realize would it was my job to cut that

1574
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,280
grass right

1575
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:58,800
and my dad

1576
01:12:02,590 --> 01:12:01,520
paid me ten dollars a week

1577
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:02,600
and in

1578
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:06,000
1976 77 that was big money that was all

1579
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,840
well i was just gonna say that's good

1580
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:10,239
money for those days it wasn't enough

1581
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,199
whitley

1582
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,440
it wasn't enough yeah

1583
01:12:18,390 --> 01:12:15,679
wasn't enough that was uh

1584
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:18,400
cutting cutting the grass so then he got

1585
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:21,840
a writing lawnmower and i was all in and

1586
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:24,880
uh that that took care of things but um

1587
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,880
now let's get back to the soul for a

1588
01:12:30,910 --> 01:12:28,800
second so

1589
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:30,920
um

1590
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:33,920
reincarnation or that idea behind it and

1591
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:36,080
i'm just going here just to ask the

1592
01:12:39,910 --> 01:12:37,520
question

1593
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:39,920
your soul

1594
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,520
is the reincarnation your consciousness

1595
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:46,080
and your memories are not right is that

1596
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:48,640
why let's go back to egypt and i can

1597
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,280
very quickly lay out

1598
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:52,719
sure is

1599
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:55,760
how this works uh

1600
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:57,280
uh

1601
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,440
in the pyramid of unas

1602
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,880
which is the

1603
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,719
there is a text

1604
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,719
written on the walls

1605
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,560
it is the oldest

1606
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:09,199
religious text in the world

1607
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:10,239
it is

1608
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:12,080
the most one of the most sophisticated

1609
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:14,960
religious texts in the world also

1610
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:17,840
and the hieroglyphics it's written in

1611
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:20,880
are absolutely awesome

1612
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,120
whoever wrote that

1613
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:26,880
knew so much about writing hieroglyphics

1614
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:29,520
they had to be at that point

1615
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:32,880
a very ancient language

1616
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,120
and a very ancient system of writing

1617
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:37,600
it's highly developed

1618
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:38,960
and

1619
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,470
there's only one or two places where

1620
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,400
you'll ever read

1621
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:48,560
anything sensible about the pyramid of

1622
01:13:52,669 --> 01:13:51,600
eunice because it freaked out

1623
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,679
a lot of these

1624
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:54,960
egyptology people who

1625
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:57,199
who want to believe we're like the top

1626
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,000
dogs and you know this is the leading

1627
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:02,960
edge of civilization we know more

1628
01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:05,120
and they don't like to look back and see

1629
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:06,760
things that are so

1630
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,400
extraordinary

1631
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:11,600
that come from the human mind when it

1632
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:13,520
was different from this

1633
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,520
and maybe a lot older than we are now

1634
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:19,520
anyway there's one book called

1635
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,800
uh

1636
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,640
the the dawning

1637
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,239
let's see it

1638
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:26,400
it's by susan brynde morrow and i think

1639
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,199
it's called the dawning moon of the mind

1640
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:31,679
and it is a very good book about the

1641
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:34,480
pyramid of venus anyway let's get to

1642
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,000
exactly where the soul comes in here

1643
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:40,400
in the pyramid there is a dis

1644
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,199
as you go in on the west

1645
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:46,320
wall of the of the entryway there is a

1646
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:48,880
description of the way the soul and the

1647
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,760
body work together

1648
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:54,560
it describes

1649
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,679
the

1650
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,360
spine

1651
01:15:01,270 --> 01:15:00,000
as the link between the soul and the

1652
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,280
body

1653
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:03,440
and it describes

1654
01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:08,709
it says it says that the spine is is a

1655
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:10,320
serpent

1656
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,400
and that there are seven smaller

1657
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,920
serpents

1658
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:17,840
circling the spine

1659
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:20,560
and drawing

1660
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:23,600
the the experience of life

1661
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:26,640
into the spine where it turns into light

1662
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:29,920
and is sent to the soul

1663
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:32,000
and this is how the body soul

1664
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:34,000
relationship works

1665
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:34,960
and

1666
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:38,159
the i found uh

1667
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,040
uh an amazing

1668
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:43,840
from mesoamerica an amazing little

1669
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:47,040
sculpture it's about only about this big

1670
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,159
it's apparently about 9 000 years old

1671
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:52,800
that some of the

1672
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,600
some of the there was some wax in it and

1673
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:58,080
the particles of wax were

1674
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:01,679
carbon dated at 9000 years so

1675
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:03,840
it you know you don't know i mean people

1676
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:06,800
make forgeries and stuff what's going on

1677
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:08,960
there but that doesn't really matter

1678
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:11,199
because it perfectly expresses the

1679
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:13,040
relationship between the body and the

1680
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,920
soul

1681
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:15,920
there's this

1682
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:19,199
big eyed like

1683
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:22,719
familiar big-eyed figure

1684
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,280
cradling in its arms

1685
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,920
a human being

1686
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:29,120
and

1687
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,239
there is a little

1688
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:33,600
little sort of

1689
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:36,239
opening a little round thing between the

1690
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:38,000
two of them

1691
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:42,480
and in that there is a triangular face

1692
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,600
gray of a gr of a gray that is to say of

1693
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:47,520
another version of us

1694
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:50,480
and only when that triangular

1695
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:54,480
stone is in the object will it stand up

1696
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:56,320
otherwise it falls over that's the

1697
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:58,080
balancing part

1698
01:17:02,149 --> 01:16:59,920
and that is

1699
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,159
the balance between the body and the

1700
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,640
soul and when you're in harmony

1701
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:06,480
in balance

1702
01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:08,159
then

1703
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:11,440
your soul is unit is unified with your

1704
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:12,640
body

1705
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:15,840
it's in your one single individual we're

1706
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,000
mostly separated we're not unified

1707
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:22,640
and it takes i mean there's lots of ways

1708
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:26,239
buddhism has ways is christianity has

1709
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,560
ways i'm in the gurji foundation the

1710
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:31,199
gurji foundation has its own way there's

1711
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,199
lots and lots

1712
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:35,120
islam has a whole bunch of different

1713
01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:38,239
very powerful ways to to

1714
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:44,390
all the religions do and there are some

1715
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,640
like the goji thing is not a religion

1716
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,040
it's you can you can be in you can do it

1717
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:51,600
within the regif and be an atheist it

1718
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,040
doesn't matter

1719
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,520
uh or at least i think you there would

1720
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,280
be maybe an argument about that but i

1721
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:58,640
think you can

1722
01:18:04,229 --> 01:17:59,920
so

1723
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,110
can i

1724
01:18:08,669 --> 01:18:07,920
how did you find a way

1725
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:08,679
to

1726
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,640
understand gurdjieff because i

1727
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:14,800
that's a good question

1728
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:18,000
whitley i tried i i you know everybody's

1729
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,520
talking and

1730
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,960
you you go

1731
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:22,560
and i got about

1732
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,239
i'm going to say 100 pages in and that

1733
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,960
that was a lot of work to get that far

1734
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:31,520
and what were you reading i'm curious

1735
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:34,320
the the the the the the

1736
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:35,040
the

1737
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,840
all in everything book yes oh that was

1738
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,159
the wrong one to start with for sure i

1739
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:43,440
got to tell you i was like is is it me

1740
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:47,760
or do i not understand one word

1741
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,880
of anything that is written here and i i

1742
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:51,840
couldn't

1743
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:54,000
how did you figure that out how are we

1744
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,600
first of all

1745
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,360
you don't you shouldn't read that book

1746
01:19:01,750 --> 01:18:59,440
until you've been actively involved in

1747
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,760
the work for at least 10 years

1748
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,280
and um

1749
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:05,280
you have to be in a work group yeah it's

1750
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:06,960
very group oriented

1751
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:08,960
and i you know my work group i've i've

1752
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:11,120
been in it off and on for 60 years 50

1753
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,480
years now

1754
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:14,640
and uh you know we get together all the

1755
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:15,520
time

1756
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:18,239
on zoom now fortunately and

1757
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,040
so

1758
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,600
you know we were able to continue

1759
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:23,600
but um

1760
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,480
uh

1761
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,400
you know it's a hard journey it's your

1762
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:28,640
jeep work does not it's not easy and

1763
01:19:33,990 --> 01:19:31,360
it's not like it gives you no

1764
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:34,000
immediate reward whatsoever

1765
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,840
you you do it for 10 or 15 years

1766
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:39,920
and you begin to

1767
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:42,159
to know something about yourself

1768
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,040
you begin to understand that

1769
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:47,600
a lot of this thinking that we do ahead

1770
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,560
stuff is not useful

1771
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:52,320
the gergie's

1772
01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:56,000
his third book in his series of books

1773
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,280
is called life is real only then when i

1774
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:00,640
am

1775
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:06,480
is the core

1776
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:09,440
if you are there

1777
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,719
then you

1778
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:12,719
you know where you are

1779
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,880
and that was what the whole thing in the

1780
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:17,280
pyramid of eunice was about because it

1781
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,679
was teaching the pharaoh

1782
01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:21,120
how to be

1783
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:22,239
there

1784
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:25,360
so that when he died and his soul left

1785
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:26,719
his body

1786
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:28,800
it would ascend

1787
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:30,320
and

1788
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:31,760
they had in

1789
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,960
they had the 42 negative admonitions of

1790
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,400
ma'at

1791
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,480
42 laws

1792
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:40,880
of which the 10 commandments are are a

1793
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:42,880
distillation

1794
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,960
and on with the 42 laws of mountain oh

1795
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,280
god don't do this don't do that

1796
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:51,440
then you think to yourself finally

1797
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:52,320
oh

1798
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:55,120
dear i walk too fast therefore i i'm

1799
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:56,080
gonna get

1800
01:21:02,229 --> 01:20:57,920
i'm gonna descend

1801
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,239
and but it's ascension is not hard

1802
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,920
that's the thing people

1803
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:04,960
that

1804
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,120
we don't want to look at the soul

1805
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:09,520
our souls because we think we've screwed

1806
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,960
up

1807
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:12,639
and you're getting remember it's hard to

1808
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,800
screw up here as i said earlier it's

1809
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:16,080
very hard

1810
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:17,760
and you can do it i mean you can do

1811
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:20,239
awful things and you will feel those

1812
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,239
regrets and if you die with those

1813
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:24,560
regrets they're like they're like little

1814
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:26,400
pieces of lead

1815
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:29,440
dropped into your soul and and uh you

1816
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:32,239
gotta let all that go when annie

1817
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,199
had her near-death experience in 2004

1818
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:36,639
she came back

1819
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:39,280
with one of the best

1820
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,520
stories about that experience

1821
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:45,840
that you i've ever heard

1822
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:48,400
annie was a teacher and still is a

1823
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,520
teacher to her core

1824
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:53,600
essentially a teacher

1825
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:56,639
and she comes back and she says

1826
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:58,560
you know she didn't go through the

1827
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,639
tunnel of light she didn't see heaven

1828
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:02,800
she didn't meet jesus

1829
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,280
she ended up in a place that a lot of

1830
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:06,800
people are going to end up in and

1831
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,480
probably all of us

1832
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,080
she said it looked like a big bus

1833
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,000
station

1834
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:14,800
and everyone was clinging they all had

1835
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:17,760
suitcases and burdens

1836
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:18,880
and

1837
01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:20,800
they had to put the burdens down or they

1838
01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:23,440
were going to just stay there

1839
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:26,639
and eventually they would come back here

1840
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,880
and she used to say to everybody put

1841
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,120
those burdens down

1842
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,760
and you'd ask her how do you do that

1843
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,600
and she'd say

1844
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,440
well

1845
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:39,360
human species is too young to have

1846
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:42,800
beliefs what we need are good questions

1847
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:45,280
and if you can really let go of your

1848
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:46,639
beliefs

1849
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:49,360
you are on your way

1850
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:51,600
and it becomes incredibly fun to turn

1851
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,920
all your beliefs into questions

1852
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:56,159
and to stop being

1853
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:57,520
you know

1854
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:00,639
think

1855
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,600
i only have one opinion left my opinion

1856
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:05,679
is i don't want to have any opinions

1857
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,550
only one belief

1858
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:12,480
i believe in the question

1859
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,040
right right right you're free

1860
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:18,239
and you're starts to grow yeah can you

1861
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:21,840
can you do that naturally without having

1862
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:24,080
somebody tell you

1863
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,520
sure you just do it right right

1864
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,679
it's not hard and you don't need the

1865
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,080
thing is each one of us has all the

1866
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:34,320
tools we need right inside here right

1867
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:36,000
inside ourselves

1868
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,520
and you know you don't want you don't

1869
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:39,040
have to become a buddhist you don't have

1870
01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:40,080
to

1871
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:42,000
buy all kinds of tapes

1872
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:44,560
or yoga poses twist yourself into a

1873
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,600
pretzel

1874
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:47,600
you don't have to sit in the garji

1875
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:49,600
work for years

1876
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:52,159
i did because i love it it's my work

1877
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:53,920
it's my life

1878
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,159
but uh you don't have to

1879
01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:57,840
you just have to

1880
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,880
live

1881
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:00,239
this way

1882
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:04,159
and you know the the whole

1883
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,639
the whole story

1884
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,800
of how to live is contained in the

1885
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:10,800
sphinx

1886
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:14,400
at giza the whole story is there

1887
01:24:19,990 --> 01:24:18,000
and it is this is the story

1888
01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:20,000
the sphinx has

1889
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,480
the strength of a bull

1890
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,719
the courage of a lion

1891
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:26,880
and the intelligence of a man and you

1892
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:29,280
don't see it on that sphinx but it also

1893
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:31,760
has wings that can spread that it will

1894
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:35,600
enable it to fly how does that all work

1895
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:38,960
the courage of the bull is the body

1896
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:41,199
healthy body

1897
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,800
i mean the strength of the bull is the

1898
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:44,800
body healthy body

1899
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:46,159
the courage

1900
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,639
of the of the sphinx

1901
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:49,840
is

1902
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:52,000
the emotions

1903
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:55,920
strong powerful good emotions

1904
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:58,719
not negative emotions powerful positive

1905
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:01,600
emotions you have the courage to see you

1906
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:04,560
set yourself as you really are

1907
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:07,040
and the intelligence of the man

1908
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:08,800
manages all this

1909
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,360
the intelligence of the of the of the of

1910
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:13,280
the person i should i don't just it's

1911
01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:17,040
not just men it's first people all of us

1912
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:18,960
puts the right food in the body to make

1913
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:21,199
the body healthy

1914
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:24,400
the intelligence sifts through

1915
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:27,840
and fulfills the great admonition that

1916
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:30,639
was on the temple of apollo at delphi

1917
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:33,440
know thyself

1918
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:34,560
and when

1919
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,840
the intelligence of the man brings

1920
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:40,320
the courage of the heart and the

1921
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,880
strength of the bull into balance the

1922
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:44,719
wings spread

1923
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:47,840
and you rise above life you become an

1924
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:49,280
objective

1925
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:52,480
viewer of life

1926
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:56,320
that's power man real power

1927
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:57,520
believe me

1928
01:26:03,750 --> 01:25:59,440
right

1929
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:03,760
when when i was a kid whitley um

1930
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:07,360
yearbook sophomore year high school

1931
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,480
and the only autograph

1932
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:12,800
in the

1933
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:16,560
yearbook that wasn't from a student

1934
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:18,719
was from my next-door neighbor his name

1935
01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:19,920
was steve

1936
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:22,880
and i'm 14 i'm 15. and and you know what

1937
01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,840
he writes he writes one sentence

1938
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:27,679
he says jimmy

1939
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:36,709
right right and now

1940
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,840
no words have affected me more

1941
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:41,600
than that

1942
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,480
and and i i remember i i said

1943
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:46,320
you know i was i wanted something

1944
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:49,520
dynamic right he writes that and and i

1945
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,080
said what does this mean you'll find out

1946
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,639
right now and here you are

1947
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:56,560
right

1948
01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,960
it goes back to

1949
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,639
exactly what you're saying if you can

1950
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,040
get rid of all of your beliefs and just

1951
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,840
turned that into just one question just

1952
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:07,040
one thing

1953
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:09,600
that's exactly what that autograph said

1954
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:10,400
right

1955
01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:12,639
not what it seems and you can you have a

1956
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:14,080
sense of humor about yourself and

1957
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:15,760
everyone around you

1958
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:18,480
because we we don't want to be be funny

1959
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:20,159
we want to be serious and take ourselves

1960
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,679
seriously but we're actually terribly

1961
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,440
funny unless we're killing each other

1962
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,080
and then you know run like hell

1963
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,760
but

1964
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:29,280
you're right

1965
01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:31,679
right and

1966
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:33,679
back to the soul really quick and we'll

1967
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:35,440
continue when we come back very

1968
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:37,440
interesting conversation

1969
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:38,480
um

1970
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:39,440
the

1971
01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,760
and linda uh and richard had a long

1972
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:54,480
conversation about this yeah

1973
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:57,040
and and and you really

1974
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:01,120
uh linda and and richard uh and william

1975
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:02,639
henry uh

1976
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:05,760
immediately snapped into attention on

1977
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:08,560
this point yeah william henry is very

1978
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,480
knowledgeable about egypt i mean

1979
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:12,400
seriously

1980
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:13,280
and

1981
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:16,639
what is it about the soul

1982
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:19,440
uh with e.t is it because

1983
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,840
they're in search of one or they're

1984
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,360
interesting they don't

1985
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,280
they don't possess them

1986
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:27,199
no not at all there are a lot of people

1987
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:29,840
with all kinds of beliefs about them but

1988
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,360
you spend

1989
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:33,920
really spend a little time actual time

1990
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,360
with them

1991
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:37,520
and you have the most fascinating

1992
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:39,760
experience especially with the little

1993
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:43,040
gray people

1994
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,600
they are very definitely individuals

1995
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,400
but they are also a

1996
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:52,719
a community at the same time they're

1997
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:53,679
both

1998
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:55,760
and it's absolutely fascinating because

1999
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:56,639
you're

2000
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:01,199
who is constantly

2001
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:04,960
in contact with a whole community

2002
01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:07,120
and and you'd think well they wouldn't

2003
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:09,360
have any individuality

2004
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:12,639
but they've got loads of individuality

2005
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,159
when they're scared

2006
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:16,560
they turn and they get robotic but if

2007
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,080
they're not scared

2008
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:20,639
they're really i mean

2009
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:23,280
they're quite extraordinary

2010
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:25,199
i think they're pretty dangerous too i

2011
01:29:28,229 --> 01:29:26,639
have to tell you and i'll tell you why

2012
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,239
if you want to know

2013
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,320
well let's take our break and we'll find

2014
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,239
out when we come back whitley stay right

2015
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:34,320
there this is fate and black

2016
01:29:38,630 --> 01:29:36,080
i'm your host jimmy church tonight

2017
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:38,640
whitley strieber is with us tonight

2018
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:39,840
[Music]

2019
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:41,199
finally

2020
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,600
it's the interview whitley and i on

2021
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:45,360
screen together this is state of black

2022
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,960
i'm your host jimmy church

2023
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,199
we'll be right back after this short

2024
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:51,360
break

2025
01:30:03,910 --> 01:29:52,800
stay with us

2026
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:03,920
[Music]

2027
01:30:09,260 --> 01:30:07,120
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2028
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,270
you're listening to fade to black

2029
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,920
[Applause]

2030
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:14,000
you're listening to jimmy church and

2031
01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:15,600
fade to black

2032
01:30:20,670 --> 01:30:26,870
[Applause]

2033
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,250
radio

2034
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[Music]

2035
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:35,910
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2036
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,320
and this year june 18 2022

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2040
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2042
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california right next to chinatown i'm

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hosting the event again this year with

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stages in total over 30 acres in

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2049
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2050
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with billy carson adam apollo lori

2051
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2052
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2053
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2060
01:31:46,629 --> 01:31:44,000
do you want to be an official fate or

2061
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:46,639
not of course you do this is jimmy

2062
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,960
churchill fade to black just go to our

2063
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2065
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:54,639
vader knots when you think about the

2066
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:56,480
future of our country and where we're

2067
01:32:01,430 --> 01:31:58,400
headed do you wonder about the food

2068
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:01,440
supply i do disruptions in the food

2069
01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:03,600
supply chain could be disastrous and

2070
01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:06,400
they usually occur with little warning

2071
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:08,400
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2072
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:11,440
today is to stockpile emergency food

2073
01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:14,400
water and other essentials i personally

2074
01:32:19,510 --> 01:32:17,199
recommend my patriot supply they're the

2075
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2076
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2077
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for more than a decade in fact they're

2078
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the only source my family trusts for our

2079
01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:30,080
preparedness plan you should too

2080
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,199
right now save 20 off a full four week

2081
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supply of delicious meals that provide 2

2082
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2083
01:32:45,189 --> 01:32:42,239
doesn't it especially now so go to

2084
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:45,199
prepare with jimmy.com and get ready

2085
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:48,560
that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

2086
01:32:52,310 --> 01:32:49,840
time to lose

2087
01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:52,320
do it now

2088
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,440
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2089
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2095
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2096
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2097
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2098
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2100
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:23,679
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2101
01:33:28,830 --> 01:33:26,880
you listen to us and we listen to you

2102
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:28,840
and so does the cia

2103
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:35,030
you are listening to fate to black with

2104
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:37,040
jimmy church on the game changing

2105
01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:42,390
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2106
01:33:48,149 --> 01:33:45,280
jimmy church this is revolution the

2107
01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:48,159
revolution will not be televised the

2108
01:33:55,180 --> 01:33:51,440
revolution is on radio

2109
01:33:55,190 --> 01:34:26,330
[Music]

2110
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:29,760
[Applause]

2111
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:34,790
[Music]

2112
01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:37,120
welcome back fade to black i am your

2113
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,639
host jimmy church tonight whitley

2114
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:40,639
strieber is with us

2115
01:34:45,109 --> 01:34:43,040
tomorrow night scott walter will be here

2116
01:34:46,790 --> 01:34:45,119
and uh wednesday night dave schrader

2117
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:46,800
thursday of course

2118
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:49,440
is another fader night with open lines

2119
01:34:53,990 --> 01:34:50,639
all night long

2120
01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:54,000
uh tonight uh with whitley a very

2121
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:56,560
interesting conversation whitley and

2122
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:57,520
um

2123
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:00,880
going back to i remember this this goes

2124
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:03,840
back many many years and i was listening

2125
01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:04,719
uh

2126
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:11,360
and

2127
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:15,600
the conversation came up uh about uh the

2128
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:16,800
blue guys

2129
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:20,320
yeah and and how your this is this is

2130
01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:22,560
this is going back uh you know 10 years

2131
01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:24,239
or probably more

2132
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:25,199
and

2133
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:29,440
was about

2134
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:33,040
the soul and what you were starting to

2135
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:35,280
understand about

2136
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:37,520
uh the blue beings and and what they

2137
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:39,040
could represent

2138
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:43,280
and it's it's caused me so many years of

2139
01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:44,480
thinking

2140
01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:47,119
about this subject and

2141
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:48,800
uh

2142
01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:50,560
so let's go back and pick up where we

2143
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,199
left off about e.t and and the soul

2144
01:36:00,950 --> 01:35:57,840
and the blue beings may not necessarily

2145
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:00,960
be the others they may be us

2146
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:03,199
right am i understanding yeah i think so

2147
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:04,880
i think that

2148
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,639
well it's really

2149
01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:08,639
this is so weird

2150
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:09,760
and

2151
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:12,960
i just that i had um

2152
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:14,880
we had annie i had a friend laurie

2153
01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:16,480
barnes

2154
01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:19,360
who was and secretary for years

2155
01:36:23,830 --> 01:36:21,440
15 years i think

2156
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:23,840
and uh they were the ones who assembled

2157
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:25,440
all the communion letters that are now

2158
01:36:30,070 --> 01:36:27,440
at rice university

2159
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:30,080
and uh

2160
01:36:38,070 --> 01:36:34,560
she had an experience in 1954

2161
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:38,080
that i thought might be

2162
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,199
something

2163
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:42,080
there might be a real secret there

2164
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:43,760
and that was this

2165
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:49,590
and um

2166
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:51,600
her husband's out on a gig he's they

2167
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,639
were they were entertainers

2168
01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:56,560
and

2169
01:37:02,709 --> 01:36:59,840
she uh what's going on jimmy

2170
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:02,719
there you go oh yeah you're discovering

2171
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:05,280
all the bells and whistles of uh stream

2172
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:07,040
yard cool

2173
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:08,719
all right here i am

2174
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,800
big and scary

2175
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:12,800
i'm even more dangerous

2176
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:14,639
now than i was then

2177
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:17,760
okay anyway so she's in bed

2178
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:20,880
and she hears a noise and she looks up

2179
01:37:24,310 --> 01:37:23,360
and she sees

2180
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:24,320
the

2181
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,239
most frightening

2182
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:28,159
possible thing

2183
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:31,600
this line beside the bed

2184
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:32,800
of these

2185
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:35,360
short dark blue

2186
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:37,920
horrible looking trolls

2187
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:40,400
just scared the bejesus out of her

2188
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,480
because here she is a pregnant woman

2189
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:44,639
alone in the house at 11 o'clock at

2190
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:45,679
night

2191
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:47,600
in queens

2192
01:37:52,070 --> 01:37:49,920
in 1954

2193
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:52,080
when you do not expect to see anything

2194
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:53,280
like that

2195
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:54,639
you do not know

2196
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:58,560
the word alien means somebody from china

2197
01:38:02,470 --> 01:38:00,719
it does not mean somebody from another

2198
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:02,480
planet that's

2199
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:04,000
that's

2200
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:06,480
fiction that has to do with uh buck

2201
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:13,109
so she recoils

2202
01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:16,400
whereupon it says to her makes this

2203
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:18,639
reassuring statement

2204
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,679
we're not here for you

2205
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:23,760
we're here

2206
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,159
we have we are interested in the girl

2207
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:28,560
child you are carrying

2208
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,440
which calms her down and says oh my

2209
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:33,600
unborn baby and your monsters are

2210
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:35,840
interested i'm fine

2211
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:39,679
not exactly she was even more upset of

2212
01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:41,040
course

2213
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:43,920
whereupon he puts his hand on her wrist

2214
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:45,119
and says

2215
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:48,320
why do you fear us

2216
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:53,119
and he she says because you're so ugly

2217
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:56,000
and he says one day my dear this is the

2218
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:57,520
critical thing

2219
01:39:04,310 --> 01:38:59,679
one day my dear

2220
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:06,470
so

2221
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:10,159
we consider the butterfly beautiful

2222
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,000
but does the caterpillar consider the

2223
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:15,040
butterfly beautiful

2224
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:16,719
does the caterpillar or could the

2225
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:21,199
caterpillar in its wildest imagination

2226
01:39:27,990 --> 01:39:24,560
ever imagine ever believe

2227
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:28,000
that he would become a butterfly

2228
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:29,360
so

2229
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:32,480
maybe the human species is like a lot of

2230
01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:35,920
other species it has more than one form

2231
01:39:40,050 --> 01:39:38,560
and the forms

2232
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:40,060
are not going to

2233
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:41,520
[Music]

2234
01:39:46,229 --> 01:39:44,800
necessarily understand each other well

2235
01:39:48,149 --> 01:39:46,239
at all

2236
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:48,159
but i will tell you about those blue

2237
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:49,280
guys

2238
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:51,679
they've got something to do

2239
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:55,040
with birth and the journey of life

2240
01:40:02,709 --> 01:39:59,280
and death and souls they surely do

2241
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:02,719
you mentioned um uh before the break

2242
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:04,239
that

2243
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:05,040
uh

2244
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:06,320
the little

2245
01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:10,080
grays also they have souls

2246
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,560
but they also may be dangerous

2247
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,560
uh what did you mean i didn't say that

2248
01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:17,119
grey's i i didn't say i if i if i'm

2249
01:40:20,830 --> 01:40:19,280
implied it was just it was the grace i'm

2250
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:20,840
not sure who it is

2251
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,000
okay to be

2252
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,320
human beings but i'll tell you a story

2253
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:26,560
this is in this story is in

2254
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:28,400
a new world

2255
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,280
the book i it's that i published a

2256
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:33,280
couple of years ago uh

2257
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,400
my sort of

2258
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:37,040
latest book about the visitors

2259
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,080
and

2260
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:40,239
um

2261
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,239
this came to me from a nurse who knew a

2262
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:46,320
a woman who worked in a

2263
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:47,199
in a

2264
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,560
office in brooklyn

2265
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,880
and i guess the coroner's office in

2266
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:56,080
brooklyn

2267
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,400
this was from the back in the early 90s

2268
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:00,480
i guess this happened

2269
01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:04,159
and they began to get in these people

2270
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:05,679
who

2271
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:07,840
were mutilated and

2272
01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:10,080
she didn't know about cattle mutilations

2273
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:12,000
when she started talking to me about

2274
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:13,040
this

2275
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,880
but as soon as she described these

2276
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:16,560
mutilations i realized that she was

2277
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:19,360
talking about the same things happening

2278
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:22,480
to people that happened to cattle

2279
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,320
and um

2280
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:26,560
took me a long time to understand what

2281
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:29,199
this was about

2282
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:32,480
and it had to do i understood it when i

2283
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,280
had

2284
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:36,000
was taken out of my body more often

2285
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,119
and i could

2286
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:39,199
experience exactly what was going on

2287
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:40,800
that would enable me to come out of my

2288
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:41,840
body

2289
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,639
i'll tell you what that is

2290
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,560
there's a

2291
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:48,960
place back here somewhere that i would

2292
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:51,440
assume that we can never find

2293
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:53,840
that they can find

2294
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:55,440
and if you

2295
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,440
send a little electric shock into that

2296
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:59,440
place

2297
01:42:04,390 --> 01:42:02,480
which has been done to me

2298
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:04,400
the person feels

2299
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:05,440
these

2300
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:06,880
like

2301
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:08,960
locks opening

2302
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,080
uh uh

2303
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:11,679
up and down the spine

2304
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:15,040
the chakras open is what happens and uh

2305
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:17,040
or what the uh

2306
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:18,960
the ancient egyptians called the seven

2307
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:20,159
tanir

2308
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:22,480
that then later they became the seven

2309
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:24,000
chakras

2310
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:27,510
the

2311
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,440
now

2312
01:42:40,629 --> 01:42:37,360
what happened was to these people in

2313
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:40,639
brooklyn they were all street people

2314
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:42,560
and they would be

2315
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:45,440
found on roofs and stuff near the areas

2316
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:47,760
where they hung out

2317
01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:50,239
and they would be mutilated

2318
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:52,639
and the coroner discovered that they had

2319
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:55,600
been what had been done to them is

2320
01:43:00,310 --> 01:42:57,840
they were mutilated

2321
01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,320
then they were drowned in the ocean

2322
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:03,119
they're taken down like 70 feet down far

2323
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:04,719
enough to where there was pressure

2324
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,679
damage to the long lungs

2325
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:08,880
and then

2326
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,199
there was an incision made

2327
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:13,280
or maybe that happened before

2328
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:15,760
during the mutilation back here

2329
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:16,560
and

2330
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:19,840
the spine was very badly damaged

2331
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,600
and

2332
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:23,440
when i first saw this

2333
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:26,080
heard this descript this described

2334
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:28,239
i didn't understand the part about the

2335
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:30,480
spine at all but now i do

2336
01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:32,239
because i've been out of my taken out of

2337
01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:34,400
my body enough to know that

2338
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:36,800
if you know what to do you you can

2339
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:39,280
release the soul from the body

2340
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,800
right here

2341
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,560
back there i don't think any of us can

2342
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:44,880
do it i don't think we we don't have

2343
01:43:50,709 --> 01:43:48,400
access to that particularly fine point

2344
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,719
but whoever did that to these people i

2345
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:52,560
think did

2346
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:53,679
was that

2347
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:57,760
some aliens or some non-humans or was it

2348
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:59,920
human beings with some kind of unholy

2349
01:44:03,189 --> 01:44:01,040
knowledge

2350
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:03,199
because once you've got that soul out of

2351
01:44:08,390 --> 01:44:05,360
there

2352
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:08,400
i it you get now to the edge of my

2353
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:09,600
knowledge

2354
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:12,800
but all i can think of is if someone

2355
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,239
wanted to take souls

2356
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:18,400
and they chose these people who no one

2357
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:21,199
would really care about for very long

2358
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:24,159
police wouldn't wouldn't

2359
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:27,199
wouldn't investigate very hard

2360
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:29,679
but they did it so many times that there

2361
01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:32,880
was quite an investigation apparently

2362
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:35,360
um

2363
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:36,880
and

2364
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:39,280
what do you do with it

2365
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:41,840
i've got a lot of ideas about what you

2366
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:43,920
might do with the soul

2367
01:44:49,990 --> 01:44:46,080
because it contains

2368
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,000
the whole contents of a life

2369
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,239
you know

2370
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:54,000
once

2371
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:57,760
the visitors one of them took me back

2372
01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:00,800
to the point where i first walked

2373
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:02,960
jimmy

2374
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,800
and it wasn't just a memory i lived it

2375
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:08,480
again

2376
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:11,280
with the intelligence and consciousness

2377
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:13,040
of an adult

2378
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:16,960
in the body of little weedy who was

2379
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:18,800
probably two years old or whenever i

2380
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,800
started to walk i don't know

2381
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:22,320
10 months or something i don't know i

2382
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:23,760
don't remember when i started to walk

2383
01:45:27,189 --> 01:45:25,199
with no idea

2384
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,199
probably in my baby book somewhere but

2385
01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:29,199
anyway

2386
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:31,520
i lived it again

2387
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:34,400
lived it in every detail as if it was

2388
01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:35,600
happening

2389
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:37,280
now

2390
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:40,480
that's all there that's in the soul

2391
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:43,920
every instant of life in all of its

2392
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:46,400
glorious detail

2393
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:48,800
the scent of the flowers

2394
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:52,159
the terror of the fire

2395
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:54,639
all of it

2396
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,600
and if they're not as alive as we are

2397
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:02,159
and they can get that

2398
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:04,320
and take it

2399
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:11,430
what do we amount to

2400
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,159
are we a kind of entertainment

2401
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:15,920
right

2402
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:19,920
and that is why i say some of them

2403
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:28,709
is is not on the go side of the of the

2404
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:31,280
lord that is for sure

2405
01:46:39,430 --> 01:46:32,159
the

2406
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:39,440
for me for example if my soul was taken

2407
01:46:43,030 --> 01:46:40,800
from me

2408
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:43,040
what do others see

2409
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:44,880
how do i now

2410
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,040
how do i present myself how do i act how

2411
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:49,440
do i look well i can tell you how annie

2412
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:50,800
responded

2413
01:46:54,629 --> 01:46:53,360
when she was she when she was no longer

2414
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:54,639
in her body

2415
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,239
one of the first things she said to me

2416
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:58,400
once we got back in touch

2417
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:59,600
was

2418
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:01,440
it looks like you're all intentionally

2419
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:03,199
ignoring us

2420
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,400
and

2421
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:07,040
you know they're they they hang out in

2422
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,800
this world for a while some of them

2423
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:10,639
maybe for a long time

2424
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,600
being

2425
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:13,280
intentionally ignored must drive them

2426
01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:14,719
nuts

2427
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,320
um

2428
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:18,400
and uh

2429
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:19,600
she

2430
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:21,920
you know i i don't know if you're i have

2431
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:23,840
i told you the story probably have on

2432
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:24,560
this

2433
01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:26,880
show but i'll just very briefly

2434
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:29,119
after annie passed away we had made a

2435
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:30,400
pact

2436
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:33,440
that the first of us to die

2437
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:35,520
would not come to try to come back

2438
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:37,119
directly to the other one but would

2439
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:38,719
rather

2440
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:41,040
come back to friends if if this was even

2441
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:42,880
possible we didn't know

2442
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:45,280
would come back to friends and get the

2443
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:47,040
friends to tell

2444
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,440
the other person

2445
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:51,119
and

2446
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:53,600
she passed on at 7 15 on the night of

2447
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:57,360
august the 11th 2015.

2448
01:48:01,990 --> 01:47:59,840
at 9 30 a friend called and i saw the

2449
01:48:03,830 --> 01:48:02,000
phone i thought holy god

2450
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:03,840
that's the last thing i need is a call

2451
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:05,199
because of course i was sitting there in

2452
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:07,520
the living room just broken up totally

2453
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,800
broken up

2454
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:11,440
and saying annie if you still exist in

2455
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,920
any way please for god's sakes give me

2456
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:15,520
some kind of a sign

2457
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,520
the phone rings

2458
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:20,159
it's belle fuller from friend of man's

2459
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,840
friend of mine too

2460
01:48:26,149 --> 01:48:24,239
and she says

2461
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:26,159
whitley i just heard anne's voice tell

2462
01:48:32,550 --> 01:48:29,199
me to call you is she all right

2463
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:32,560
and i think oh god help us and i said

2464
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:35,199
annie's passed on at 7 15. belle thank

2465
01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:38,320
you very much no no

2466
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:40,400
and it kept happening

2467
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:43,520
trish and rob mcgregor who have that uh

2468
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:45,040
they're on they have mystical

2469
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,639
underground

2470
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:49,119
it happened to them only it was really

2471
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:51,760
dramatic a huge explosion in their house

2472
01:48:55,109 --> 01:48:53,360
that had no

2473
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:55,119
apparent source

2474
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:57,280
and

2475
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,719
william henry's wife claire had the same

2476
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:02,719
thing a call

2477
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,000
a voice when i was sitting in the

2478
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:08,320
in the hills above uh

2479
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:11,119
palm springs

2480
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:13,599
a few days later

2481
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:15,360
i am

2482
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:17,360
i was sitting there again thinking annie

2483
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,440
if you're still here in any way please

2484
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:21,199
let me know

2485
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:23,440
and

2486
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,199
saying whitley i just heard ann's voice

2487
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:31,280
and she said to

2488
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,960
to uh call you

2489
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:34,159
to tell you

2490
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:37,280
that she was okay

2491
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:42,550
then i re remembered the

2492
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,109
and i thought my god

2493
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:51,599
anne is here

2494
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:53,679
and then it started we started working

2495
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:55,840
together and we started writing a book

2496
01:49:59,669 --> 01:49:57,360
together called

2497
01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,679
afterlife revolution

2498
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:01,360
and we've been working together together

2499
01:50:04,229 --> 01:50:02,560
ever since

2500
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,239
we worked together now

2501
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:05,840
i'm used to it now

2502
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:08,239
i'll never be a good channel

2503
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:09,760
but

2504
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:13,760
i am good at it picking up ideas annie's

2505
01:50:16,870 --> 01:50:15,679
ideas because they're always way better

2506
01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:16,880
than mine

2507
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:18,880
so i can pick them up

2508
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:21,040
um i like this

2509
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:22,080
the

2510
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,360
i'll give you let me see here i take

2511
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,239
notes with these of these ideas let me

2512
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:30,400
i'll uh

2513
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:37,270
do you

2514
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:43,599
when you're communicating oh no i have

2515
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:45,840
to take notes quickly

2516
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:48,239
right if i don't take them quickly i

2517
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:49,920
will forget it

2518
01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:50,800
right

2519
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:53,280
i've lost stuff that way oh here's the

2520
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,679
typical one everybody belongs to

2521
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:57,199
everybody

2522
01:51:02,470 --> 01:50:59,840
in the physical world it's hard to see

2523
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,480
that this is so

2524
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:04,400
and that

2525
01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:06,880
that's uh you know that's not that's an

2526
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:08,639
idea that nobody has i never heard that

2527
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:10,080
before from anyone

2528
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:16,550
oh and another one i asked her

2529
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,719
i asked her what the universe was and

2530
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:20,400
she said well you you need to find out

2531
01:51:24,149 --> 01:51:22,000
about the stars before you understand

2532
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:24,159
the universe

2533
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:26,320
and then she says the stars aren't just

2534
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:28,000
balls of light

2535
01:51:35,109 --> 01:51:30,800
what the stars are

2536
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:35,830
i

2537
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:36,719
you know

2538
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:38,000
jaw drops

2539
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,119
right

2540
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:41,440
what does that mean and that's heavy

2541
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,599
actually yeah i mean you think about

2542
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:45,440
that

2543
01:51:57,189 --> 01:51:53,840
intensity

2544
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,199
of the will of god

2545
01:52:02,550 --> 01:51:59,920
for creation

2546
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:02,560
and you think my god it's true

2547
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:05,599
the stars are the creation

2548
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:08,480
they are the desire of god

2549
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:13,109
so

2550
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:17,599
your life is

2551
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:18,960
really cool

2552
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:22,960
[Laughter]

2553
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:23,840
the

2554
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:24,880
uh

2555
01:52:28,390 --> 01:52:25,760
the

2556
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:28,400
reality of that because

2557
01:52:33,669 --> 01:52:30,880
and i say reality because

2558
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:33,679
you you are now introduced to this

2559
01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:36,960
you've been on this journey uh for so

2560
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:38,080
long

2561
01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:41,360
and then these questions start to get

2562
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:43,119
answered right

2563
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:46,159
and how did you how did you feel about

2564
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:48,159
that at first did you

2565
01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:49,440
well have your

2566
01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:51,040
questions get

2567
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:53,119
i'm sorry jimmy i talked over you go

2568
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:54,400
ahead

2569
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:57,199
did you believe that this was possible

2570
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:58,719
because you've heard others talk about

2571
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:01,280
it for for a long time but when you

2572
01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:04,080
experience it yourself

2573
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:07,920
how did you how did you accept it

2574
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:09,119
well

2575
01:53:13,830 --> 01:53:10,960
what happens is that your questions get

2576
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:13,840
replaced by better questions

2577
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,760
and

2578
01:53:20,470 --> 01:53:17,520
so there's really nothing to accept in

2579
01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:23,750
you you just

2580
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,669
like

2581
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:27,840
what is annie now

2582
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:30,560
she's she said early on i'm not ann

2583
01:53:35,830 --> 01:53:33,520
anymore but i'll always be hand for you

2584
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:35,840
what does that mean well i i understand

2585
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:36,639
it

2586
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:39,280
that i'm talking to the soul now

2587
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:42,080
the body that was anne

2588
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:44,400
is gone dead

2589
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:47,840
but the essence of the life that anne

2590
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,520
lived is now part of this huge soul

2591
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:54,400
that has had many lives

2592
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:57,760
and will have many more probably

2593
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:58,480
but

2594
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,920
when it manifests to me it does so as

2595
01:54:04,629 --> 01:54:02,880
ann

2596
01:54:06,629 --> 01:54:04,639
because i probably couldn't understand

2597
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:06,639
it otherwise

2598
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:10,560
is is is are you referring to

2599
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,440
uh and the physical self was the soul

2600
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:14,960
container

2601
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:15,920
for that

2602
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:18,000
the the the physical self is a

2603
01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:19,599
projection

2604
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:21,520
into the stream of time it's not the

2605
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:23,440
container the soul is a

2606
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:25,920
is a silent witness to life

2607
01:54:32,159 --> 01:54:35,990
the universe

2608
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,229
do you remember um

2609
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:40,320
uh i want to go back to our conversation

2610
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:42,639
that uh we were having with linda and

2611
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:44,239
richard and

2612
01:54:47,510 --> 01:54:46,560
and william about this

2613
01:54:49,910 --> 01:54:47,520
and

2614
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,920
the subject came up about the soul

2615
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:51,360
container

2616
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:52,880
and

2617
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:57,360
in my own little

2618
01:55:01,510 --> 01:55:00,000
juvenile brain i tried to contribute to

2619
01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:01,520
the conversation

2620
01:55:05,669 --> 01:55:03,040
but you remember how

2621
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:05,679
how incredibly silly you were don't

2622
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:07,199
worry

2623
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:10,400
actually jimmy you're a very wise man

2624
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,719
and you're very good at hiding what you

2625
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:15,520
really are but that said let's just go

2626
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:18,080
on down the road so everybody had a

2627
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:23,520
different take on a a soul container and

2628
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:24,480
i

2629
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:32,480
that there may be

2630
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:34,080
a giant

2631
01:55:38,550 --> 01:55:35,920
ship out there

2632
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:38,560
with rows and rows of

2633
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:41,520
of containers with souls in them

2634
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:42,480
and

2635
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:46,719
out of my mind

2636
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:50,080
is is that a possibility i don't know i

2637
01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:52,320
have no idea

2638
01:55:56,149 --> 01:55:54,639
i i do know that the soul is like a

2639
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:56,159
fisherman on the

2640
01:56:03,270 --> 01:56:00,400
bank of the water of the river of time

2641
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:03,280
and it's got this body

2642
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:06,560
it throws into the water of time and the

2643
01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:09,040
and that that's us

2644
01:56:14,709 --> 01:56:12,159
and events experiences are flowing past

2645
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:14,719
us all the time and we're gathering

2646
01:56:19,189 --> 01:56:17,760
energy from those experiences

2647
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:19,199
and then when

2648
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:20,560
we die

2649
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:23,280
pulls us out again

2650
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:24,480
and

2651
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:27,280
draws us into itself

2652
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:29,840
and makes another one

2653
01:56:34,629 --> 01:56:32,639
and goes on down the road like that

2654
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:34,639
until finally

2655
01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:37,760
that's that's all feels like

2656
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:40,400
i've had enough of this

2657
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:43,280
i'm finished with time

2658
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:46,800
and i'm leaving time now

2659
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,960
and that's all returns from whence it

2660
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:50,480
came

2661
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:53,440
it becomes part of

2662
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:55,199
the

2663
01:57:01,270 --> 01:56:59,520
universe

2664
01:57:03,270 --> 01:57:01,280
because i'll tell you there's one thing

2665
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,280
that is a container

2666
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:05,760
it's consciousness itself

2667
01:57:15,669 --> 01:57:13,669
brian greene and we can continue this um

2668
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:15,679
after the break whitley

2669
01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:19,280
brian greene in his latest book

2670
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:21,199
until the end of time

2671
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:25,599
he talks about the end of the physical

2672
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:27,679
universe right and we're talking about

2673
01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:30,080
trillions upon trillions upon trillions

2674
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:32,000
of years in the future

2675
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:34,239
about it not that long but in the future

2676
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:37,199
a few billion years yeah well this is

2677
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:39,840
this is his book so actually i'm sorry i

2678
01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:41,599
didn't realize i'm not i'm not read the

2679
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:44,159
book right but he says something very

2680
01:57:49,189 --> 01:57:45,440
interesting

2681
01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:49,199
he says that after the last protons

2682
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:51,360
break apart right and and everything is

2683
01:57:53,270 --> 01:57:52,400
done

2684
01:57:55,750 --> 01:57:53,280
that

2685
01:57:58,149 --> 01:57:55,760
what will continue

2686
01:58:02,229 --> 01:57:58,159
is thought

2687
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:02,239
that thought is an energy and it will

2688
01:58:07,270 --> 01:58:04,880
continue thinking and thought

2689
01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:07,280
will exist forever

2690
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:09,520
and it will

2691
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:12,239
float around the universe looking for

2692
01:58:16,870 --> 01:58:15,040
little bits of energy because thought

2693
01:58:18,470 --> 01:58:16,880
still needs food

2694
01:58:19,910 --> 01:58:18,480
and i just thought about that for a

2695
01:58:21,910 --> 01:58:19,920
second when i thought about that you

2696
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,920
like the way i used that word again

2697
01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:23,119
um

2698
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:25,280
a very he didn't say consciousness he

2699
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:28,159
didn't say soul he's a physicist he's a

2700
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:32,239
scientist so he defines it as thought

2701
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:34,400
but is he

2702
01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:37,440
saying the same thing that consciousness

2703
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:39,119
and and the soul

2704
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:41,119
exist in the universe and will last

2705
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:45,990
well

2706
01:58:52,390 --> 01:58:50,320
energy will never die energy is

2707
01:58:53,830 --> 01:58:52,400
not going to end

2708
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:53,840
not even with the

2709
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:56,800
end of the physical world

2710
01:59:02,550 --> 01:58:58,080
and

2711
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:02,560
consciousness is energy there's such a

2712
01:59:08,149 --> 01:59:05,599
thing as it is conscious energy

2713
01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:08,159
um it will be there

2714
01:59:13,030 --> 01:59:10,719
and it will

2715
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:13,040
it will

2716
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:15,840
begin to look itself look into itself

2717
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:17,920
and look at itself

2718
01:59:24,629 --> 01:59:21,199
more and more carefully

2719
01:59:28,229 --> 01:59:24,639
and the more it looks at itself

2720
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:28,239
the more concentrated it will become

2721
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:31,119
until it is in a state

2722
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:33,599
of absolute

2723
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:38,159
almost perfect awareness

2724
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:45,350
less than the size of a head of a pen

2725
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:47,760
but that will contain

2726
01:59:58,229 --> 01:59:53,589
and then there will be

2727
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:01,109
inside it

2728
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:02,960
and the whole thing will explode out

2729
02:00:11,270 --> 02:00:08,950
that is the great heart

2730
02:00:13,830 --> 02:00:11,280
beating

2731
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:13,840
over billions and billions of years

2732
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:20,070
let's take our break right here our

2733
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:22,800
guest tonight whitley strieber i i love

2734
02:00:27,270 --> 02:00:24,320
this conversation

2735
02:00:29,910 --> 02:00:27,280
that's why whitley i've called this

2736
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:29,920
the interview

2737
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:32,000
we will be right back after this short

2738
02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:34,400
break our guest tonight whitley strieber

2739
02:00:39,669 --> 02:00:37,440
i am your host jimmy church i will be

2740
02:00:40,910 --> 02:00:39,679
right back after this short break stay

2741
02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:40,920
with us

2742
02:00:49,790 --> 02:00:48,480
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2743
02:00:55,530 --> 02:00:49,800
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2744
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2745
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2751
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2797
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:25,840
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2825
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2826
02:05:01,589 --> 02:04:57,830
you wanna know a secret

2827
02:05:02,950 --> 02:05:01,599
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

2828
02:05:06,550 --> 02:05:02,960
serious

2829
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:06,560
i couldn't stay sane without ponies

2830
02:05:15,109 --> 02:05:08,639
why fade to black

2831
02:05:21,060 --> 02:05:17,270
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2832
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:21,070
on the game changer radio network

2833
02:05:35,350 --> 02:05:33,280
[Music]

2834
02:05:37,109 --> 02:05:35,360
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2835
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:37,119
jimmy church you've got a view of

2836
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:42,709
got me by surprise

2837
02:05:50,870 --> 02:05:45,360
and uh this is fade to black tonight uh

2838
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:50,880
whitley strieber is with us and uh

2839
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:56,310
two souls walk into a bar

2840
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:00,830
now

2841
02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:04,960
let's can there be

2842
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:07,440
a communication now let's go back to the

2843
02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:09,440
universe right let's let's you know and

2844
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:10,960
and we've got

2845
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:13,199
consciousness and the energy running

2846
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,040
around

2847
02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:17,760
what happens they must bump into each

2848
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,639
other

2849
02:06:21,830 --> 02:06:20,239
and maybe there's a community maybe

2850
02:06:23,189 --> 02:06:21,840
there's a city

2851
02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:23,199
um

2852
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,480
is there

2853
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:26,880
communication that happens

2854
02:06:34,629 --> 02:06:30,880
uh between these these energy clouds if

2855
02:06:37,430 --> 02:06:34,639
you will i have never seen another

2856
02:06:42,629 --> 02:06:37,440
soul another when i was out of my body

2857
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:45,030
the reason there's thinking going on

2858
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:46,960
right there is

2859
02:06:52,069 --> 02:06:48,719
and you're you know you're swimming

2860
02:06:54,470 --> 02:06:52,079
around the universe and doing your thing

2861
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:54,480
um and observing

2862
02:06:59,189 --> 02:06:57,760
um there must be communication going on

2863
02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:59,199
and does that

2864
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:01,440
happen right back on earth

2865
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:04,000
um you said earlier that you wouldn't be

2866
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:05,760
a good channel

2867
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:08,079
but is that is that

2868
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:10,000
is that what's happening whether it's a

2869
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,000
form of entanglement

2870
02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:14,400
reaching out to energy into the

2871
02:07:19,030 --> 02:07:16,880
connected universe but there must be

2872
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:19,040
communication going on

2873
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:21,360
i think it's all communication i think

2874
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:23,199
it's all entangled

2875
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:25,280
and i think that

2876
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:27,280
i suspect that the universe is an

2877
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:29,920
incredibly sensitive web

2878
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:30,960
and that

2879
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:32,079
anything

2880
02:07:39,430 --> 02:07:36,400
shakes the whole web

2881
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:39,440
and um so the web is

2882
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:42,239
pretty is dancing quite a dance of

2883
02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:43,599
course because there's a lot happening

2884
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:45,520
in the universe

2885
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:47,119
and um

2886
02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:50,159
but i don't um

2887
02:07:53,589 --> 02:07:51,760
i don't know about that level of

2888
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:53,599
communication

2889
02:07:57,189 --> 02:07:55,599
i only know what i

2890
02:07:58,149 --> 02:07:57,199
have experienced

2891
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:58,159
and

2892
02:08:03,109 --> 02:08:01,199
when i'm out of my body

2893
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,119
been out of my body

2894
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:05,360
i've seen other people

2895
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:06,960
three times

2896
02:08:11,030 --> 02:08:08,960
physical people

2897
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:11,040
but and two of them

2898
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:13,760
no i guess all three of them saw me

2899
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:15,040
um

2900
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:17,280
but i've never seen like

2901
02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:19,840
another soul that i was aware of as a

2902
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:21,199
soul

2903
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,480
i have

2904
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:24,480
certainly engaged with them and

2905
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:26,239
meditated with them

2906
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:27,920
quite extensively

2907
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:30,239
especially at the cabin

2908
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:32,320
when um

2909
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:33,920
there was a group of seven of them who

2910
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:35,520
used to come every night to meditate

2911
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:38,719
with me for for about a year

2912
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:40,000
the last

2913
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:44,320
the cabin before we lost it

2914
02:08:48,790 --> 02:08:46,880
and um

2915
02:08:51,189 --> 02:08:48,800
the kit i never saw this but the kids

2916
02:08:53,750 --> 02:08:51,199
would sometimes see these seven

2917
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:53,760
softly glowing balls of light

2918
02:08:58,229 --> 02:08:55,280
out in the woods

2919
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,239
moving around in the woods

2920
02:09:02,149 --> 02:09:00,800
when they went camping at night

2921
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:02,159
and

2922
02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:05,360
i'll tell you another story about that

2923
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:07,760
the first time i ever saw those things

2924
02:09:12,950 --> 02:09:10,239
which are souls in my opinion

2925
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:12,960
i think that's how souls look to us when

2926
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:19,189
rise up into a level where you can see

2927
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:21,119
things like that

2928
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:23,360
uh

2929
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:26,480
it was at my grandmother's funeral

2930
02:09:30,550 --> 02:09:28,320
my grandmother's mother had lived to the

2931
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:30,560
age of 106.

2932
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,400
my grandmother was absolutely convinced

2933
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:34,880
that she would do the same

2934
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:38,159
but she died in her mid-80s

2935
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:40,480
and we were in the church the coffin was

2936
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:42,239
there it was closed it's a catholic

2937
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:43,520
funeral

2938
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:45,599
and

2939
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:48,320
in the in the in the aisle

2940
02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:50,560
and we're you know criminal mass is

2941
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:52,400
going on and all of a sudden these seven

2942
02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:54,400
big balls of light six big balls of

2943
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:55,280
light

2944
02:09:59,750 --> 02:09:57,440
came in from both sides and

2945
02:10:02,790 --> 02:09:59,760
sort of rolled in and were lined up on

2946
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:02,800
both sides of the coffin

2947
02:10:06,950 --> 02:10:04,960
and i almost shouted out i mean because

2948
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:06,960
i didn't realize i was

2949
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:09,280
in my early 30s

2950
02:10:14,870 --> 02:10:11,840
i did not have any idea that other

2951
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:14,880
people couldn't see it this

2952
02:10:19,669 --> 02:10:16,800
and and then a couple of seconds later i

2953
02:10:21,350 --> 02:10:19,679
realized nobody else is looking at them

2954
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:21,360
nobody else knows they're there i'm

2955
02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:23,199
alone in this and so i kept my mouth

2956
02:10:27,430 --> 02:10:24,320
shut

2957
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:27,440
but i picked up from them

2958
02:10:31,589 --> 02:10:29,520
that she

2959
02:10:33,350 --> 02:10:31,599
refused to leave her body

2960
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:33,360
because she refused to believe she was

2961
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:34,320
dead

2962
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:36,719
and they were her

2963
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:40,079
like her squad or her posse of souls

2964
02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:42,000
they were all linked together and they

2965
02:10:45,679 --> 02:10:48,229
and

2966
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:50,629
she wouldn't come out

2967
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:52,079
and then i

2968
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:54,480
a few days later

2969
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:56,480
i saw her again

2970
02:11:01,109 --> 02:10:58,560
explaining to people

2971
02:11:03,589 --> 02:11:01,119
about all the beautiful houses she had

2972
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:03,599
had made and how beautiful her house was

2973
02:11:07,830 --> 02:11:06,000
and it was beautiful

2974
02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:07,840
and um

2975
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:11,199
but she was still involved in this world

2976
02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:14,079
she wouldn't go out

2977
02:11:17,430 --> 02:11:15,760
and i think she was refusing she was

2978
02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:17,440
like hosting a party

2979
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:21,119
she still didn't know she was dead

2980
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:23,360
and i saw a couple more times until

2981
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:24,960
finally about

2982
02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:30,709
i saw her

2983
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:33,280
and she was standing facing the front of

2984
02:11:39,830 --> 02:11:35,520
a beautiful house and that was all she

2985
02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:39,840
had left of this world only memory she

2986
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:41,840
carried

2987
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:48,629
i said to her

2988
02:11:54,790 --> 02:11:51,599
granny it's witty

2989
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:54,800
and she turned around

2990
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:57,920
and she looked at me this very intense

2991
02:12:02,470 --> 02:11:59,840
expression on her face

2992
02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:02,480
and i said granny

2993
02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:05,440
it's time to go

2994
02:12:10,069 --> 02:12:07,119
and all of a sudden

2995
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:10,079
the irises of her eyes turned gold

2996
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:10,880
and

2997
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:19,360
long time

2998
02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:20,400
and you know

2999
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,119
i think a lot of them

3000
02:12:26,870 --> 02:12:24,960
are trying are talking and maybe they

3001
02:12:28,229 --> 02:12:26,880
even got living in a kind of fantasy

3002
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:28,239
world where they're still interacting

3003
02:12:31,990 --> 02:12:30,400
with people and then gradually they

3004
02:12:33,430 --> 02:12:32,000
notice

3005
02:12:35,189 --> 02:12:33,440
that hey

3006
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:35,199
i'm actually

3007
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:36,560
you know no one

3008
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:38,320
gives a damn about me anymore they're

3009
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:40,239
just ignoring me

3010
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,119
and

3011
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:44,400
said at the very beginning it looks like

3012
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:45,920
you're all intentionally ignoring us it

3013
02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:50,709
the

3014
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:52,560
uh

3015
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:56,560
know that we've talked about this before

3016
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:59,040
but if we look at you know over the

3017
02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:01,199
decades uh

3018
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:02,480
what

3019
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:05,280
uh has been seen in the skies

3020
02:13:10,069 --> 02:13:07,599
we've seen these these different phases

3021
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:10,079
right of of of what's been there

3022
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:13,440
um i can only talk about my own personal

3023
02:13:18,310 --> 02:13:17,040
experiences and what i have seen but one

3024
02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:18,320
one thing

3025
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:21,440
that i can't wrap my head around

3026
02:13:24,229 --> 02:13:22,960
is

3027
02:13:27,430 --> 02:13:24,239
when

3028
02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:27,440
i see something that isn't quite

3029
02:13:31,189 --> 02:13:28,800
physical

3030
02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:31,199
it's light it's a light in the sky and

3031
02:13:34,709 --> 02:13:33,360
it can be different colors

3032
02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:34,719
but

3033
02:13:38,629 --> 02:13:36,400
whitley

3034
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:38,639
is showing up for me

3035
02:13:43,109 --> 02:13:41,599
right that's that's it's it's a bizarre

3036
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:43,119
feeling

3037
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,719
and then it it appears and then and and

3038
02:13:51,910 --> 02:13:48,000
goes away

3039
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:51,920
and i'm not sure if it's physical or not

3040
02:13:56,310 --> 02:13:55,280
it's physical because my eyes are seeing

3041
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,320
it

3042
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,800
and others that are around me and i'm

3043
02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:00,079
sure that you've

3044
02:14:03,830 --> 02:14:02,320
experienced the same thing

3045
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:03,840
um

3046
02:14:12,709 --> 02:14:10,870
is is is is this a soul is this a

3047
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:12,719
you know something connected by

3048
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:15,280
consciousness good question it's a good

3049
02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:17,679
question a few nights ago

3050
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:20,239
i was at the house of a friend some

3051
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:21,520
friends i was

3052
02:14:28,069 --> 02:14:24,800
in texas and spending the night there

3053
02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:31,189
uh

3054
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:31,990
this

3055
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:35,360
entity i've encountered before

3056
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:38,000
showed up in my bedroom

3057
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:39,679
and these people have known me for a

3058
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:41,119
year we've known each other since we

3059
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:43,040
were little kids so

3060
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:44,880
and they've had everything all the

3061
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:47,520
squidly stuff has happened to them their

3062
02:14:52,069 --> 02:14:49,760
stereos have been blown out their tv's

3063
02:14:54,790 --> 02:14:52,079
blown out and all the usual and we've

3064
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:54,800
been having a lot of computer craziness

3065
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,960
and i thought oh no

3066
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:58,320
this is gonna get

3067
02:15:01,350 --> 02:14:59,599
bad

3068
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:01,360
um

3069
02:15:05,510 --> 02:15:02,880
and

3070
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:05,520
but uh i saw this thing

3071
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:07,040
and it's like a

3072
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:08,480
it's like a

3073
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:11,199
like a ghost i mean it's literally a

3074
02:15:16,149 --> 02:15:13,599
very intense

3075
02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:16,159
white kind of field

3076
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:18,719
and if it touches you

3077
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:21,119
it's electric

3078
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:23,840
and i thought it hopefully it won't

3079
02:15:26,229 --> 02:15:25,119
i was their

3080
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:26,239
bedroom

3081
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:27,840
excuse me

3082
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:30,320
their guest room was in the basement

3083
02:15:34,229 --> 02:15:32,400
i thought i hope it doesn't go upstairs

3084
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:34,239
because they both know about it and

3085
02:15:38,310 --> 02:15:36,800
it'll piss them off it'll scare their

3086
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,320
cat

3087
02:15:42,229 --> 02:15:40,480
but it didn't go upstairs

3088
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:42,239
but what was it

3089
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:43,840
what is that

3090
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:47,360
it came years ago to our house our

3091
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:49,280
apartment in new york

3092
02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:51,280
and it would poke

3093
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:54,079
and it poked anne in the shoulder

3094
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:56,719
and just scared the jesus out of her of

3095
02:16:02,390 --> 02:15:59,119
course she woke up and saw it there

3096
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:02,400
beside the bed this kind of haze of

3097
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:05,280
whiteness that was poking her and

3098
02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:07,280
uh then of course she got mad at me

3099
02:16:11,350 --> 02:16:09,679
because she figured it was my fault

3100
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,360
this was before the communion experience

3101
02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:13,440
i said andy why would it be my fault

3102
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:14,960
maybe it was you

3103
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,960
maybe it went after you because of you

3104
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,880
maybe it's here because of you and she

3105
02:16:22,229 --> 02:16:20,560
said well i don't attract things like

3106
02:16:24,629 --> 02:16:22,239
that you do

3107
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:24,639
and then a couple nights later it's

3108
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,119
upset us both because our little boy

3109
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:29,040
starts screaming and this the white

3110
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,000
thing is in here poking me and poking me

3111
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:36,309
then about a week later we go to our

3112
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:38,960
wedding reception

3113
02:16:43,830 --> 02:16:40,240
and

3114
02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:43,840
suddenly i get a call

3115
02:16:49,990 --> 02:16:44,840
it's

3116
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:50,000
the babysitter she's having hysterics

3117
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:51,760
there's something

3118
02:16:57,669 --> 02:16:53,920
she says there is something

3119
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:57,679
a white thing in the house

3120
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:59,599
and i thought

3121
02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,639
i said

3122
02:17:04,070 --> 02:17:02,319
stay calm

3123
02:17:06,150 --> 02:17:04,080
we're coming back

3124
02:17:07,270 --> 02:17:06,160
and we got back to the house as soon as

3125
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:07,280
we could

3126
02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:08,800
the apartment

3127
02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:11,280
and she's there her mother's there

3128
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,000
she's totally wiped she's totally having

3129
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:16,800
hysterics and her mother's saying it was

3130
02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:19,439
just a little boy in a sheet it was just

3131
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:22,399
a little boy wearing a sheet

3132
02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:25,519
and our son's in his room and i

3133
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,399
said

3134
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:28,399
did you see it

3135
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:30,240
and he said yeah it was on the fire

3136
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:32,800
escape i said was it someone wearing a

3137
02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:34,960
sheet he said no it was a white thing

3138
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:36,160
but it didn't come in because she

3139
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:40,950
so

3140
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:43,760
what are these things man you tell me i

3141
02:17:48,230 --> 02:17:45,840
don't know whitley

3142
02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:48,240
uh this is uh that's about two months

3143
02:17:53,509 --> 02:17:49,439
ago

3144
02:17:56,709 --> 02:17:53,519
i'm in my room tv's off

3145
02:17:59,509 --> 02:17:56,719
i've got my ipad

3146
02:18:01,509 --> 02:17:59,519
folded next to me and

3147
02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:01,519
and i'm doing some reading it's about

3148
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:02,880
midnight

3149
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:03,840
and

3150
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:05,040
i've got

3151
02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:06,880
my uh

3152
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:10,880
lamp on on on the nightstand and that's

3153
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:13,439
it house is quiet i'm reading i'm not

3154
02:18:20,309 --> 02:18:15,760
listening to something i'm reading

3155
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:20,319
and and i'm on my side right

3156
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:21,439
and

3157
02:18:25,509 --> 02:18:22,800
i get

3158
02:18:26,629 --> 02:18:25,519
in the middle of my back

3159
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:26,639
a push

3160
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:27,760
okay

3161
02:18:30,709 --> 02:18:29,920
right just like that right

3162
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:30,719
and

3163
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:32,000
i'm serious

3164
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:33,840
i i don't know what my face looked like

3165
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:36,399
but it was probably this

3166
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:37,439
yeah

3167
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:39,599
right i know that facebook

3168
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:41,200
but but

3169
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:43,200
i didn't look

3170
02:18:47,190 --> 02:18:45,920
i did not turn around i did not want to

3171
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:47,200
see

3172
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:49,200
all i know is

3173
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:51,040
it was real

3174
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:54,800
and and uh i didn't say go away leave me

3175
02:19:00,389 --> 02:18:57,120
alone you know none of that

3176
02:19:02,150 --> 02:19:00,399
i never say that i just i just

3177
02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:02,160
you know what i took one for the team

3178
02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:02,960
man

3179
02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:04,399
and uh

3180
02:19:08,150 --> 02:19:07,200
uh don't i i i didn't i didn't want to

3181
02:19:11,669 --> 02:19:08,160
look

3182
02:19:14,309 --> 02:19:11,679
i did i did not want to confront

3183
02:19:15,990 --> 02:19:14,319
whatever that was you know what and eve

3184
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:16,000
okay let's say that you know i turn

3185
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:18,800
around and there's uh a white

3186
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:21,040
light right or there's a thing there's

3187
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:23,040
an energy shape

3188
02:19:27,910 --> 02:19:25,120
i would be more okay with that than

3189
02:19:30,549 --> 02:19:27,920
turning around and seeing nothing

3190
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,559
okay and i did not want to know i did

3191
02:19:34,549 --> 02:19:32,559
not want to know i just i it didn't

3192
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:34,559
happen again by the way

3193
02:19:40,150 --> 02:19:37,120
um but it was a very strange sensation

3194
02:19:41,589 --> 02:19:40,160
and it was it was exactly this like a

3195
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:41,599
push

3196
02:19:46,880 --> 02:19:50,230
and i left it right there

3197
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:52,230
well

3198
02:19:55,670 --> 02:19:54,080
i wonder if it

3199
02:19:58,150 --> 02:19:55,680
if it had been full it would have been

3200
02:20:00,469 --> 02:19:59,190
right

3201
02:20:02,630 --> 02:20:00,479
now

3202
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,640
same scenario

3203
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:05,200
do you turn around and look or do or do

3204
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:12,870
it would depend

3205
02:20:15,910 --> 02:20:14,560
i probably

3206
02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:15,920
well i'll tell you that something

3207
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:18,399
similar happened to me recently i

3208
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:24,389
and um

3209
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,600
i had not gone to i had didn't i

3210
02:20:31,429 --> 02:20:30,000
meditated at 11 and at three in the

3211
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:31,439
morning and

3212
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:33,600
i had just done the 11 o'clock

3213
02:20:40,630 --> 02:20:36,720
meditation i laid down in bed

3214
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:40,640
and suddenly arms came around my middle

3215
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,240
i heard from behind me i heard this

3216
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:45,600
and i thought

3217
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:46,560
oh

3218
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:49,120
i'm too tired you got

3219
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:51,680
i just stayed there and waited and went

3220
02:20:55,349 --> 02:20:54,160
away after a while i went to sleep there

3221
02:20:57,030 --> 02:20:55,359
would have come there would have been a

3222
02:20:59,190 --> 02:20:57,040
time in my life when i would have gone

3223
02:21:01,270 --> 02:20:59,200
completely ape or something like that i

3224
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:01,280
left out of bed and gone crazy

3225
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:03,760
but i you know i'm just had so much of

3226
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:05,920
it and you know probably most of us

3227
02:21:11,670 --> 02:21:08,160
we're getting used to we're getting used

3228
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:11,680
to living in between the worlds because

3229
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:13,520
that's where this whole

3230
02:21:18,070 --> 02:21:16,080
human enterprise is headed

3231
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:18,080
we're all going to be doing it and those

3232
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:19,600
of us

3233
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:21,120
you me

3234
02:21:23,830 --> 02:21:22,720
most of your listeners most of my

3235
02:21:25,990 --> 02:21:23,840
listeners

3236
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:26,000
and people on our websites on unknown

3237
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:27,920
country and so forth we're like the

3238
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:30,160
cutting edge we're the future

3239
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:33,439
and uh the future is gonna be

3240
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:35,120
uh

3241
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,040
gonna be

3242
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:39,120
living with these other levels of

3243
02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:41,040
reality as part of our lives and we're

3244
02:21:44,309 --> 02:21:42,800
going to get used to it

3245
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:44,319
and it's going to turn out that we're

3246
02:21:48,870 --> 02:21:45,920
going to learn how to make use of it and

3247
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:48,880
make it a good thing for mankind i hope

3248
02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:50,720
and what do you uh

3249
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:53,520
i've never asked you this um

3250
02:21:57,990 --> 02:21:55,840
what do you think about

3251
02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:58,000
uh dmt

3252
02:22:03,110 --> 02:21:59,840
and ayahuasca

3253
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:03,120
i i have to stay far away

3254
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:06,319
i have uh

3255
02:22:12,550 --> 02:22:09,840
listen i in i have had one experience of

3256
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:12,560
marijuana in my life

3257
02:22:18,309 --> 02:22:16,479
i walked into a room back in the 70s

3258
02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:18,319
where there were people smoking a lot of

3259
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:20,160
grass there was a very heavy

3260
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:23,200
amount of smoke in the air and i talked

3261
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:26,880
to a guy in there for about five minutes

3262
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:28,720
and

3263
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:33,280
i came out of that room high as a kite

3264
02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:37,439
and i stayed high for a week

3265
02:22:43,750 --> 02:22:40,560
i would see myself passing in the street

3266
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:43,760
and going to work and i was crazy at

3267
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:44,800
work

3268
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:47,840
uh i was driving everybody nuts talking

3269
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:48,720
about

3270
02:22:52,150 --> 02:22:51,280
things that didn't exist and all this

3271
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:52,160
stuff

3272
02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:54,960
i mean things i was seeing in the office

3273
02:22:59,990 --> 02:22:57,280
that didn't actually exist

3274
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:01,830
then we went to another party the next

3275
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:03,040
week

3276
02:23:08,070 --> 02:23:05,920
and i effusively complimented the

3277
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:08,080
hostess about the goldfish in her lamp

3278
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:09,520
stands

3279
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:12,319
and anne says we're going home with lee

3280
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:14,080
you're still high

3281
02:23:26,309 --> 02:23:22,150
after an experience like that that is

3282
02:23:28,790 --> 02:23:26,319
your one exposure to grass just to grass

3283
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:28,800
and secondhand smoke at that

3284
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:29,920
i stay

3285
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,880
well away from those things

3286
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:34,240
well away

3287
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:37,439
there is a suggestion and it's

3288
02:23:43,750 --> 02:23:41,040
it's like this is a repeated

3289
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:43,760
uh experiment but

3290
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,000
dmt

3291
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:48,479
uh which is produced naturally in our

3292
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:50,960
body right in right yeah the doctors

3293
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:52,640
think i've got a lot of it on my own he

3294
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:54,640
said you don't need to waste your money

3295
02:23:57,270 --> 02:23:56,560
on it

3296
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:57,280
and

3297
02:24:02,630 --> 02:24:00,640
dmt uh

3298
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:02,640
uh takes us to

3299
02:24:08,469 --> 02:24:05,680
uh another uh dimension another parallel

3300
02:24:09,590 --> 02:24:08,479
world that exists

3301
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:09,600
and

3302
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:17,680
from people that have gone through this

3303
02:24:21,750 --> 02:24:19,600
and of course i've spoken

3304
02:24:23,429 --> 02:24:21,760
to many people that have a lot of our

3305
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:23,439
mutual friends

3306
02:24:29,190 --> 02:24:25,840
uh that we have between us whitley have

3307
02:24:33,389 --> 02:24:29,200
done it i have not but that

3308
02:24:35,190 --> 02:24:33,399
is this part of what physicists and

3309
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:35,200
scientists

3310
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:37,359
are trying to tell us about parallel

3311
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:41,040
worlds and a multiverse and that dmt

3312
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:43,439
may be the vehicle

3313
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:46,319
right that we can drive to go

3314
02:24:50,710 --> 02:24:48,880
and see this parallel world that uh that

3315
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:50,720
you're referring to

3316
02:24:55,270 --> 02:24:53,280
well i've been in it i drove a jeep

3317
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:55,280
through it with another man's child in

3318
02:24:59,349 --> 02:24:56,720
the car

3319
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:59,359
and i've been in it physically two more

3320
02:25:04,309 --> 02:25:00,880
times since then

3321
02:25:06,070 --> 02:25:04,319
and seen it extensively i learned how to

3322
02:25:08,630 --> 02:25:06,080
when i was at the lakota sioux

3323
02:25:11,990 --> 02:25:08,640
reservation in south dakota

3324
02:25:14,950 --> 02:25:12,000
in the summer of 29 2018 or

3325
02:25:17,190 --> 02:25:14,960
it was i guess was 2019

3326
02:25:18,870 --> 02:25:17,200
i could see into the parallel universe

3327
02:25:20,550 --> 02:25:18,880
every time i close my eyes it was like

3328
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:20,560
that for three days

3329
02:25:26,389 --> 02:25:22,880
and it's not apparel it's a mirror

3330
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:26,399
universe and uh when i wrote a new world

3331
02:25:30,790 --> 02:25:28,880
i i did a lot of research and it turns

3332
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:30,800
out the physics on this mirror universe

3333
02:25:33,990 --> 02:25:32,000
is actually

3334
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:34,000
more solid than the physics of the

3335
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:35,600
multiverse where there are many many

3336
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:36,960
universes

3337
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,439
and this this parallel this mirror

3338
02:25:44,630 --> 02:25:41,920
universe probably exists i mean really

3339
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:44,640
does right here where we are

3340
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:47,359
and uh i learned how to concentrate in

3341
02:25:51,670 --> 02:25:50,000
such a way that i can see into it

3342
02:25:56,870 --> 02:25:51,680
and

3343
02:26:01,990 --> 02:25:59,830
what's the difference between mirror

3344
02:26:03,590 --> 02:26:02,000
and parallel

3345
02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:03,600
well

3346
02:26:08,469 --> 02:26:05,359
this place

3347
02:26:13,349 --> 02:26:08,479
it looks like our world

3348
02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:16,469
in our world

3349
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:18,160
the

3350
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:24,080
reservation were narrow and small

3351
02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:26,399
but when i closed my eyes they were wide

3352
02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:27,120
and

3353
02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:28,720
much bigger

3354
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:32,960
and the reason it and the sky was cloudy

3355
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:34,960
and i think that

3356
02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:36,240
that the

3357
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:40,479
ice age has not ended in that universe

3358
02:26:44,070 --> 02:26:41,840
i don't think

3359
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:44,080
whatever happened here

3360
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:46,960
in 9000 bc that brought the ice age

3361
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,880
crashing to an end

3362
02:26:53,830 --> 02:26:51,120
has happened there

3363
02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:53,840
and their world is much more undeveloped

3364
02:26:57,429 --> 02:26:55,359
than our world and i think there are

3365
02:26:59,830 --> 02:26:57,439
fewer people in it

3366
02:27:02,950 --> 02:26:59,840
it's much more undeveloped it's much

3367
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:02,960
like a

3368
02:27:06,389 --> 02:27:04,960
much more undeveloped

3369
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:06,399
so

3370
02:27:10,950 --> 02:27:09,840
is it uh in the same

3371
02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:10,960
uh

3372
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:14,800
linear alignment time wise

3373
02:27:19,750 --> 02:27:18,080
i'm not i can't know that i i think i

3374
02:27:22,469 --> 02:27:19,760
think it might be a little bit

3375
02:27:25,670 --> 02:27:22,479
technologically ahead of us

3376
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:25,680
because uh when i was

3377
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:28,080
oh god what a wonderfully crazy life i

3378
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:30,399
lead i ended up

3379
02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:32,479
riding him i was

3380
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:33,680
just getting

3381
02:27:39,590 --> 02:27:36,800
ready to get up and and go swimming i i

3382
02:27:42,469 --> 02:27:39,600
swim early in the morning a lot and

3383
02:27:44,870 --> 02:27:42,479
then all of a sudden i was not in my

3384
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:44,880
apartment sitting there in my pajamas on

3385
02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:47,520
the bedside i was riding a bicycle

3386
02:27:49,910 --> 02:27:49,040
down the street

3387
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:49,920
and

3388
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:54,000
it ends in

3389
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:56,479
you know the street ends and there's a t

3390
02:28:00,150 --> 02:27:59,040
and i was right riding toward the t

3391
02:28:01,830 --> 02:28:00,160
and thinking

3392
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:01,840
what the hell

3393
02:28:06,790 --> 02:28:04,560
i don't even own a bicycle

3394
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:06,800
what is going on and i mean i wasn't in

3395
02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:10,000
my pajamas i was in shorts and a t-shirt

3396
02:28:12,870 --> 02:28:10,960
and i

3397
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:12,880
it was so

3398
02:28:17,670 --> 02:28:15,600
incredibly sudden and so vivid i mean it

3399
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:17,680
was it was like

3400
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:19,359
you know you're sitting on a bedside and

3401
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:21,200
then bang you're in a completely

3402
02:28:24,710 --> 02:28:22,960
different situation

3403
02:28:27,030 --> 02:28:24,720
and like it's in another body i think

3404
02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:27,040
what happened is the soul of the version

3405
02:28:31,030 --> 02:28:28,960
of me in that universe and the soul of

3406
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:31,040
the version of me and this one exchanged

3407
02:28:33,830 --> 02:28:32,560
bodies

3408
02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:33,840
and

3409
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:36,319
but i was riding along

3410
02:28:41,910 --> 02:28:38,800
and i could see at the t

3411
02:28:44,469 --> 02:28:41,920
the street lights were totally different

3412
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:44,479
at rt there's you know the usual red

3413
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:46,319
yellow green lights

3414
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:48,479
and you stop and you wait and whether

3415
02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:50,560
there are any cars there or not

3416
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:52,640
you wait if it's a red light just like

3417
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:55,439
we do everywhere but in this other world

3418
02:28:59,750 --> 02:28:57,359
there was two lights

3419
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:59,760
and they had arrows

3420
02:29:02,790 --> 02:29:00,560
that

3421
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,800
pointed in both directions

3422
02:29:06,710 --> 02:29:04,560
and if the arrow in the direction you

3423
02:29:08,230 --> 02:29:06,720
wanted to go in was green you could just

3424
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:08,240
go in it because you would know there's

3425
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:09,920
no car coming

3426
02:29:13,190 --> 02:29:11,680
it's a completely different system you

3427
02:29:14,950 --> 02:29:13,200
see

3428
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:14,960
and better than what we have because it

3429
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:16,160
would have been

3430
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:18,640
working with using radar to detect

3431
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:20,160
whether or not there were

3432
02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:21,680
were cars coming

3433
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:23,840
it was just and you know that was just

3434
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:25,600
one of the things i saw a lot of things

3435
02:29:28,710 --> 02:29:27,200
like that

3436
02:29:30,870 --> 02:29:28,720
and um

3437
02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:30,880
then it was over

3438
02:29:35,830 --> 02:29:33,359
and i had to come home

3439
02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:35,840
and i thought

3440
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:38,560
i never get enough

3441
02:29:43,270 --> 02:29:40,720
just enough

3442
02:29:45,510 --> 02:29:43,280
to let me know

3443
02:29:47,270 --> 02:29:45,520
that this world is a hell of a lot

3444
02:29:50,070 --> 02:29:47,280
bigger than we think

3445
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:50,080
but not enough to where i could come

3446
02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:53,760
back with pictures or something you know

3447
02:29:59,349 --> 02:29:56,560
yeah yeah yeah and

3448
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:59,359
it's uh what i find

3449
02:30:05,590 --> 02:30:01,120
so fascinating

3450
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:05,600
is when i hear science and if it's a

3451
02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:07,840
pure numbers game too whitley pure

3452
02:30:11,750 --> 02:30:09,280
numbers game

3453
02:30:15,830 --> 02:30:11,760
in that the the universe is so vast and

3454
02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:15,840
and so big we don't re it's so big we we

3455
02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:18,720
don't understand the size of it the

3456
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:20,720
numbers are just extraordinary

3457
02:30:22,870 --> 02:30:21,840
but

3458
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:22,880
the

3459
02:30:31,590 --> 02:30:27,520
physicists today

3460
02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:31,600
that there are infinite versions of us

3461
02:30:34,870 --> 02:30:33,520
going to the left and to the right

3462
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:34,880
infinite

3463
02:30:40,790 --> 02:30:39,120
of everything

3464
02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:40,800
we're going to find out that theory is

3465
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:42,000
not correct

3466
02:30:45,270 --> 02:30:43,200
shortly

3467
02:30:47,270 --> 02:30:45,280
why

3468
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:47,280
i don't understand the physicist physics

3469
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,880
well enough but i do know some very

3470
02:30:52,469 --> 02:30:51,280
advanced physics physicists who are

3471
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,479
telling me

3472
02:30:57,349 --> 02:30:54,240
that that theory

3473
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,359
is not working that there's a

3474
02:31:01,190 --> 02:30:59,520
there's a particle that's being in the

3475
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:01,200
process of being discovered that's going

3476
02:31:07,030 --> 02:31:04,479
to mean that theory can't be true

3477
02:31:08,230 --> 02:31:07,040
and i don't i'm not don't ask me more

3478
02:31:09,490 --> 02:31:08,240
questions that's just what i've been

3479
02:31:11,510 --> 02:31:09,500
told by experts

3480
02:31:14,550 --> 02:31:11,520
[Laughter]

3481
02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:14,560
i any any new physics well and she could

3482
02:31:18,710 --> 02:31:16,399
she could tell you exactly but she's not

3483
02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:18,720
here to do that and as i said i'm not a

3484
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,880
good enough channel

3485
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:22,399
uh

3486
02:31:27,429 --> 02:31:24,479
and now she says to me you couldn't

3487
02:31:28,630 --> 02:31:27,439
understand me anyway so

3488
02:31:31,030 --> 02:31:28,640
well that's

3489
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:31,040
that's just women in general i mean

3490
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:33,280
whitley

3491
02:31:39,830 --> 02:31:34,319
she was

3492
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:39,840
and and and here's the thing when i say

3493
02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:42,640
that it's just a numbers game that

3494
02:31:45,190 --> 02:31:44,080
particles

3495
02:31:47,990 --> 02:31:45,200
uh

3496
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:48,000
are not limitless the types of particles

3497
02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:49,120
out there

3498
02:31:55,990 --> 02:31:53,200
are finite and they can only combine

3499
02:31:58,230 --> 02:31:56,000
so many different ways and so in the

3500
02:32:01,670 --> 02:31:58,240
vastness of the universe

3501
02:32:04,630 --> 02:32:01,680
there has to be it is just a numbers

3502
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:04,640
game there has to be at least one other

3503
02:32:09,429 --> 02:32:06,399
version of you whitley

3504
02:32:11,990 --> 02:32:09,439
there is out there right now and it's

3505
02:32:14,950 --> 02:32:12,000
just a numbers game

3506
02:32:16,309 --> 02:32:14,960
there's some doofus radio host

3507
02:32:17,830 --> 02:32:16,319
out there

3508
02:32:19,750 --> 02:32:17,840
talking to you

3509
02:32:21,110 --> 02:32:19,760
and we're having the same conversation

3510
02:32:22,870 --> 02:32:21,120
except for

3511
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:22,880
i'm wearing a

3512
02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:26,479
a plaid shirt and you're wearing a black

3513
02:32:30,230 --> 02:32:28,720
shirt with a gray alien on it but

3514
02:32:32,389 --> 02:32:30,240
whatever the difference is there's the

3515
02:32:36,150 --> 02:32:32,399
difference is this

3516
02:32:48,870 --> 02:32:36,160
they're not a couple of comedians

3517
02:32:48,880 --> 02:32:53,590
but you know

3518
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:56,710
the immensity of the physical universe

3519
02:33:00,630 --> 02:32:58,399
is so great that that you could be

3520
02:33:02,550 --> 02:33:00,640
telling an absolutely true thing it

3521
02:33:05,429 --> 02:33:02,560
could be that there's more than one

3522
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:05,439
planet that literally is exactly like

3523
02:33:08,630 --> 02:33:06,479
this

3524
02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:08,640
simply on the odds

3525
02:33:14,389 --> 02:33:12,000
isn't that fascinating it is it it it

3526
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:14,399
just has to be that way it has to be

3527
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:17,680
that way and if you

3528
02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:18,800
uh

3529
02:33:23,030 --> 02:33:21,280
the best way to look at it is this yeah

3530
02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:23,040
you and i are sitting playing cards and

3531
02:33:26,950 --> 02:33:24,720
i'm shuffling the deck

3532
02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:26,960
and we're playing a little five card

3533
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:28,960
hold them right the two of us and and

3534
02:33:33,750 --> 02:33:31,359
you're kicking my butt and i and i

3535
02:33:36,070 --> 02:33:33,760
shuffle five cards to you five cards to

3536
02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:36,080
me we look at our hands

3537
02:33:42,150 --> 02:33:39,760
eventually if we play long enough

3538
02:33:45,110 --> 02:33:42,160
i'm going to deal i'm going to shuffle

3539
02:33:47,270 --> 02:33:45,120
the cards into the exact same sequence

3540
02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:47,280
and i'm going to and we're going to have

3541
02:33:53,590 --> 02:33:50,720
the exact same cards dealt to us it

3542
02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:53,600
could be the next hand it could be 50

3543
02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:56,640
million hands from now but

3544
02:33:58,870 --> 02:33:57,760
it will

3545
02:33:59,830 --> 02:33:58,880
happen

3546
02:34:02,150 --> 02:33:59,840
and

3547
02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:02,160
same thing with the rest of the universe

3548
02:34:06,790 --> 02:34:03,680
right

3549
02:34:08,150 --> 02:34:06,800
and um uh i want to ask you this before

3550
02:34:09,110 --> 02:34:08,160
we say good night

3551
02:34:17,670 --> 02:34:09,120
the

3552
02:34:21,590 --> 02:34:17,680
that

3553
02:34:22,870 --> 02:34:21,600
there is at least 40 to 50

3554
02:34:24,870 --> 02:34:22,880
billion

3555
02:34:25,990 --> 02:34:24,880
earth-like planets

3556
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:26,000
rocky

3557
02:34:31,190 --> 02:34:27,359
water

3558
02:34:33,750 --> 02:34:31,200
prime for life in the goldilocks zone

3559
02:34:34,950 --> 02:34:33,760
and if we just look at life here on

3560
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:34,960
earth

3561
02:34:40,630 --> 02:34:37,600
and and we know that life is easy here

3562
02:34:44,469 --> 02:34:40,640
we can't stop life we're trying to but

3563
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:44,479
uh you can't stop life here so therefore

3564
02:34:49,190 --> 02:34:46,720
it must exist

3565
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:49,200
out there

3566
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:51,520
an awful lot it's thousands and

3567
02:34:54,389 --> 02:34:52,720
thousands

3568
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:54,399
of uh

3569
02:34:59,030 --> 02:34:55,680
advanced

3570
02:35:01,270 --> 02:34:59,040
et civilizations out there well if it if

3571
02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:01,280
that's not true then god is a slow

3572
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:02,560
learner

3573
02:35:08,870 --> 02:35:05,760
uh for sure if there's only one of us

3574
02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:08,880
and you know a fermi paradox happened

3575
02:35:13,030 --> 02:35:10,319
when

3576
02:35:14,950 --> 02:35:13,040
uh during the flying saucer beginning of

3577
02:35:16,790 --> 02:35:14,960
the flying saucer era

3578
02:35:18,309 --> 02:35:16,800
enrico fermion

3579
02:35:20,070 --> 02:35:18,319
uh

3580
02:35:21,190 --> 02:35:20,080
a couple of other scientists sat down

3581
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:21,200
together and

3582
02:35:25,670 --> 02:35:24,160
they were talking about flying saucers

3583
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:25,680
and they of course

3584
02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:27,760
all agreed that flying saucers didn't

3585
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:29,600
exist

3586
02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:31,600
scientists loved to turn out to be wrong

3587
02:35:35,590 --> 02:35:33,120
in the end

3588
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:35,600
that that it was a long time ago

3589
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:37,840
and so the question then became where is

3590
02:35:40,790 --> 02:35:38,960
everybody

3591
02:35:43,030 --> 02:35:40,800
why is it so quiet

3592
02:35:43,990 --> 02:35:43,040
and that is a damn good question to this

3593
02:35:47,270 --> 02:35:44,000
day

3594
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:47,280
because if there are that many out there

3595
02:35:52,309 --> 02:35:49,120
and they all go through

3596
02:35:56,630 --> 02:35:52,319
a phase of development even a little bit

3597
02:35:58,150 --> 02:35:56,640
like ours each one of them or many many

3598
02:36:00,790 --> 02:35:58,160
of them

3599
02:36:02,630 --> 02:36:00,800
have broadcast

3600
02:36:05,190 --> 02:36:02,640
signals like

3601
02:36:07,349 --> 02:36:05,200
television signals which go

3602
02:36:09,910 --> 02:36:07,359
go way out there

3603
02:36:13,990 --> 02:36:09,920
uh they they will continue to go out

3604
02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:17,910
and yet we've never picked anything up

3605
02:36:25,510 --> 02:36:20,880
so what if it is a desert

3606
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:27,910
and that would explain that why so many

3607
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:29,920
people have experiences of god because

3608
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:32,560
god has nowhere else to go

3609
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:35,439
and nothing else to do

3610
02:36:42,469 --> 02:36:37,840
uh if we're alone

3611
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:42,479
whitley that is a much scarier thought

3612
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:45,439
than that oh yes it is out there if

3613
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:46,880
we're alone

3614
02:36:51,030 --> 02:36:48,880
let's just party let's burn this sucker

3615
02:36:52,870 --> 02:36:51,040
down right there's oh no i mean we

3616
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:52,880
become incredibly precious if we're

3617
02:36:57,750 --> 02:36:55,280
alone we have to preserve every life and

3618
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,760
preserve the planet because yummy we're

3619
02:37:01,190 --> 02:36:59,520
like the most precious

3620
02:37:02,630 --> 02:37:01,200
to my mind

3621
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:02,640
we would be the most precious thing in

3622
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,040
the whole universe i do not think we're

3623
02:37:08,870 --> 02:37:07,359
alone at all i tell you that i'm just

3624
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,880
speculating now

3625
02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:11,439
because i've seen too much i mean i'd go

3626
02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:14,000
so far as to say i know we're not alone

3627
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:16,640
but uh because i have seen a lot that's

3628
02:37:22,469 --> 02:37:18,960
for sure well if

3629
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:22,479
if if the planet knew if all of our

3630
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:25,359
earthling brothers and sisters

3631
02:37:28,469 --> 02:37:26,160
knew

3632
02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:28,479
that there was

3633
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:31,600
life out there then that gives you a

3634
02:37:35,349 --> 02:37:32,880
reason

3635
02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:35,359
for the future to preserve this planet

3636
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:38,160
to shake hands to to

3637
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:40,560
you know take care of things if if you

3638
02:37:46,550 --> 02:37:44,399
tell earthlings that we are alone

3639
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:46,560
i think that's chaos

3640
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:48,880
i i would say i agree with you and i but

3641
02:37:52,790 --> 02:37:50,960
you know here's the thing though

3642
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,800
we're obviously we're not i don't think

3643
02:37:56,070 --> 02:37:54,720
we're alone i'm almost certain we're not

3644
02:37:58,469 --> 02:37:56,080
alone

3645
02:38:01,270 --> 02:37:58,479
and i'm fairly sure that at least some

3646
02:38:04,150 --> 02:38:01,280
of these entities that i've encountered

3647
02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:04,160
are probably originate in this physical

3648
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,640
universe on other planets although if

3649
02:38:09,910 --> 02:38:08,080
that turns out not to be the case i

3650
02:38:13,030 --> 02:38:09,920
wouldn't be too surprised

3651
02:38:15,110 --> 02:38:13,040
but say it is the case

3652
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:15,120
why do they why is it happening

3653
02:38:19,030 --> 02:38:16,960
unfolding like this

3654
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:19,040
i mean it becomes a very good question

3655
02:38:22,790 --> 02:38:20,800
why don't they land on the white house

3656
02:38:25,910 --> 02:38:22,800
law why is it so

3657
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:25,920
secretive what are they hiding

3658
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:28,479
and you know why why

3659
02:38:31,670 --> 02:38:29,600
why is it

3660
02:38:33,590 --> 02:38:31,680
why isn't it more straightforward i mean

3661
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:33,600
wouldn't you think that

3662
02:38:36,950 --> 02:38:35,760
if you discovered another planet and

3663
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:36,960
there were

3664
02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:38,640
intelligent creatures on it the first

3665
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:40,319
thing you would want to do

3666
02:38:43,830 --> 02:38:42,000
would not be to sneak into their

3667
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:43,840
bedrooms at night

3668
02:38:48,469 --> 02:38:46,560
but to engage with them and learn who

3669
02:38:51,830 --> 02:38:48,479
they were and come to understand their

3670
02:38:53,750 --> 02:38:51,840
world and their myths and their history

3671
02:38:57,830 --> 02:38:53,760
from their standpoint

3672
02:39:01,270 --> 02:38:57,840
but instead we get this weird

3673
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:03,349
thing that

3674
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:09,270
it may be that we are in contact with

3675
02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:11,040
e.t

3676
02:39:16,790 --> 02:39:14,319
went insane

3677
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:16,800
a long time ago

3678
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:18,640
and here we are

3679
02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:20,640
face to face

3680
02:39:25,190 --> 02:39:23,120
with a technological

3681
02:39:26,950 --> 02:39:25,200
a technologically

3682
02:39:28,550 --> 02:39:26,960
advanced

3683
02:39:32,230 --> 02:39:28,560
species

3684
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:34,469
maybe

3685
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:36,880
we're just not supposed to know well

3686
02:39:49,270 --> 02:39:45,270
too much that is a scary thought

3687
02:39:56,389 --> 02:39:53,830
the red yes yes yes yes yes and explain

3688
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:56,399
all this ridiculously crazy stuff that

3689
02:39:59,910 --> 02:39:58,080
happens to us

3690
02:40:02,389 --> 02:39:59,920
when when

3691
02:40:04,150 --> 02:40:02,399
when i'm standing there

3692
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:04,160
with friends

3693
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:05,280
and

3694
02:40:12,710 --> 02:40:09,920
which i have right

3695
02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:12,720
see this giant ship appear

3696
02:40:17,030 --> 02:40:16,000
physical not a lot i mean like

3697
02:40:20,950 --> 02:40:17,040
right

3698
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:20,960
and then just disappear

3699
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:23,439
i have to say to myself maybe we're just

3700
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:29,269
why is that why is that just appearing

3701
02:40:33,349 --> 02:40:31,680
and then apparently i can't i don't have

3702
02:40:34,389 --> 02:40:33,359
another way to describe it i don't have

3703
02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:34,399
the

3704
02:40:41,349 --> 02:40:39,200
have it just phase out

3705
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:41,359
or go back to where it came from

3706
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:43,040
whatever happened

3707
02:40:48,790 --> 02:40:46,399
but why it i know that that

3708
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:48,800
is not our technology

3709
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:51,040
that is something that

3710
02:40:54,230 --> 02:40:52,240
uh

3711
02:40:56,630 --> 02:40:54,240
it popped in and out like that what if

3712
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:56,640
it popped in and out of another universe

3713
02:41:01,910 --> 02:40:59,600
right that's exactly my point right

3714
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:01,920
maybe we're not supposed to know maybe

3715
02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:04,560
it's just something that and here's the

3716
02:41:07,910 --> 02:41:05,760
other thing

3717
02:41:09,990 --> 02:41:07,920
why not i mean what's wrong there i

3718
02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:10,000
don't get it i i

3719
02:41:12,790 --> 02:41:11,120
maybe

3720
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:12,800
whitley you were talking about uh

3721
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:15,040
television signals earlier

3722
02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:15,840
yeah

3723
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:16,880
that

3724
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:17,760
what

3725
02:41:25,429 --> 02:41:20,800
may be sent back to us

3726
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:25,439
um is is just not in the same

3727
02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:27,760
frame reference of time

3728
02:41:32,870 --> 02:41:29,680
and it is just

3729
02:41:34,230 --> 02:41:32,880
they are in another existence in another

3730
02:41:37,110 --> 02:41:34,240
time

3731
02:41:38,790 --> 02:41:37,120
that doesn't line up with ours and we

3732
02:41:41,030 --> 02:41:38,800
can't see it

3733
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:41,040
and we can't understand it and we can't

3734
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:44,160
unscramble it because it's it's it's

3735
02:41:48,070 --> 02:41:46,319
impossible for us

3736
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:48,080
until we figure out how to do it of

3737
02:41:53,190 --> 02:41:50,240
course but but that's going back to the

3738
02:41:56,710 --> 02:41:53,200
fermi paradox it is out there and it's

3739
02:41:59,190 --> 02:41:56,720
out there a lot but it's just in another

3740
02:42:01,590 --> 02:41:59,200
stretch of time that we don't understand

3741
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:02,950
well

3742
02:42:06,389 --> 02:42:04,560
i don't know something is wrong and now

3743
02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:06,399
i've creeped myself out

3744
02:42:11,349 --> 02:42:08,720
with this idea of highly advanced

3745
02:42:13,269 --> 02:42:11,359
technology and complete insanity

3746
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:13,279
and because that that fits the picture

3747
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:15,760
too well frankly

3748
02:42:20,150 --> 02:42:17,840
would we um

3749
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:20,160
last question

3750
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:21,600
would we

3751
02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:23,600
understand

3752
02:42:28,950 --> 02:42:27,200
that's the whole thing to have something

3753
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:28,960
the white house lawn

3754
02:42:33,269 --> 02:42:31,120
and come down and start explaining

3755
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:33,279
things to us

3756
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:35,840
would we understand

3757
02:42:39,030 --> 02:42:37,359
i mean it

3758
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:39,040
and it did

3759
02:42:43,190 --> 02:42:40,560
it doesn't have to be that far in the

3760
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:43,200
future as far as an advanced race goes

3761
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:44,960
it could be 50 years

3762
02:42:48,870 --> 02:42:46,240
if you look at

3763
02:42:50,950 --> 02:42:48,880
what we were like in 1975 and what we're

3764
02:42:53,750 --> 02:42:50,960
like now

3765
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:53,760
i mean you would think that if we came

3766
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:55,520
back to that time you would think that

3767
02:43:00,150 --> 02:42:58,240
these people were very advanced

3768
02:43:01,910 --> 02:43:00,160
and uh

3769
02:43:03,349 --> 02:43:01,920
and that's the scary thing because you

3770
02:43:06,790 --> 02:43:03,359
know

3771
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:06,800
it could mean like the spaniards

3772
02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:09,600
they come to the incas and the aztecs

3773
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:10,720
and

3774
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:12,160
they

3775
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:17,279
technologically very advanced compared

3776
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:19,200
to those cultures

3777
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:21,120
but are they more

3778
02:43:25,269 --> 02:43:22,960
uh

3779
02:43:28,150 --> 02:43:25,279
more advanced ethically

3780
02:43:29,830 --> 02:43:28,160
they are definitely not

3781
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:29,840
they are ethical

3782
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:32,319
there are moral monsters

3783
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:35,200
who have become corrupted by a

3784
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:37,439
fanatical belief system and so the next

3785
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:38,800
thing you know

3786
02:43:42,070 --> 02:43:40,240
they're cutting these poor people's

3787
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:42,080
hands off and burning them at the stake

3788
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:43,920
and all kinds of things

3789
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:44,800
and

3790
02:43:52,469 --> 02:43:48,720
by the end of another 20 years

3791
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:52,479
9 out of ten people in mexico have died

3792
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:55,840
been killed enslaved or died

3793
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:57,200
and

3794
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:58,160
so

3795
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:00,640
never tell me that i don't that you

3796
02:44:05,110 --> 02:44:02,560
don't think e.t would be dangerous i

3797
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:05,120
think et is very dangerous

3798
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:06,000
and

3799
02:44:11,269 --> 02:44:07,760
i think that

3800
02:44:13,269 --> 02:44:11,279
if et does land on the white house lawn

3801
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:13,279
we are going to have to comport

3802
02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:14,640
ourselves

3803
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:16,960
very intelligently

3804
02:44:21,830 --> 02:44:18,800
and wisely

3805
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:21,840
in order to make this thing come out

3806
02:44:26,469 --> 02:44:24,880
for us in a way that helps us

3807
02:44:28,230 --> 02:44:26,479
because at first what we're gonna have

3808
02:44:30,870 --> 02:44:28,240
would happen would be we'd see all this

3809
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:30,880
fantastic technology

3810
02:44:35,590 --> 02:44:33,600
and then we would want it

3811
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:35,600
and that's exactly what happens like in

3812
02:44:40,950 --> 02:44:38,080
uh the cargo cults of

3813
02:44:43,030 --> 02:44:40,960
of the of the uh pacific islands during

3814
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:43,040
world war ii when they saw

3815
02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:44,960
all of a sudden out of nowhere come

3816
02:44:51,269 --> 02:44:47,920
these airplanes full of

3817
02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:51,279
people who have coca-colas and

3818
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:53,920
meat and everything and wonderful tools

3819
02:44:58,389 --> 02:44:55,520
and all this stuff

3820
02:45:00,389 --> 02:44:58,399
so what do they do

3821
02:45:02,150 --> 02:45:00,399
they try

3822
02:45:05,269 --> 02:45:02,160
they want that too

3823
02:45:06,389 --> 02:45:05,279
so they use bamboo and leaves they clear

3824
02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:06,399
fields

3825
02:45:11,990 --> 02:45:10,080
and they make bamboo and leaf airplanes

3826
02:45:15,110 --> 02:45:12,000
and bamboo and leaf

3827
02:45:17,590 --> 02:45:15,120
refrigerators and they make noises that

3828
02:45:18,710 --> 02:45:17,600
sound to them like the voices of the

3829
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:18,720
people

3830
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:20,800
of the airmen because they figure these

3831
02:45:26,630 --> 02:45:23,680
are magical incantations

3832
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:26,640
and they go up to the they try to fly in

3833
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:29,200
the airplanes and they try to

3834
02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:31,359
open the refrigerator so that cold beer

3835
02:45:37,590 --> 02:45:34,240
will come out and when it doesn't work

3836
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:37,600
they figure their incantations are off

3837
02:45:42,309 --> 02:45:40,000
their prayers are not right because

3838
02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:42,319
they're not being answered and they see

3839
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:44,319
these other people have these prayers

3840
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:46,399
and their prayers are being answered so

3841
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,800
they're better than we are and the next

3842
02:45:53,269 --> 02:45:50,560
thing you know

3843
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:53,279
liquor arrives and with it

3844
02:45:57,830 --> 02:45:56,000
the end of their world as they knew it

3845
02:45:59,429 --> 02:45:57,840
and all of the things they loved and

3846
02:46:03,030 --> 02:45:59,439
believed in

3847
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:03,040
turn out in their minds to be total bs

3848
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:05,680
and they give up on themselves

3849
02:46:11,349 --> 02:46:07,600
and if you go to those islands many of

3850
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:11,359
those islands now you find hollow shells

3851
02:46:15,110 --> 02:46:13,359
of the cultures that used to live there

3852
02:46:17,269 --> 02:46:15,120
used to be there

3853
02:46:18,630 --> 02:46:17,279
and those cultures were beautiful and

3854
02:46:20,790 --> 02:46:18,640
deeply human

3855
02:46:24,230 --> 02:46:20,800
and they are lost to us forever

3856
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:24,240
and if et shows up like that in the end

3857
02:46:30,790 --> 02:46:26,880
we will all be lost in the same way

3858
02:46:34,150 --> 02:46:30,800
i did yeah with the cargo cults um

3859
02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:34,160
where and i can only imagine

3860
02:46:39,110 --> 02:46:35,120
what

3861
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:39,120
and once

3862
02:46:42,389 --> 02:46:40,960
you know a helicopter or an airplane is

3863
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:42,399
dropping the stuff out of the sky what

3864
02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:44,000
do they do all day long

3865
02:46:49,110 --> 02:46:46,479
they're out there looking right that's

3866
02:46:52,630 --> 02:46:49,120
they're just looking to the sky and when

3867
02:46:55,269 --> 02:46:52,640
you see your first ufo when you see your

3868
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:55,279
first craft

3869
02:47:01,750 --> 02:46:57,760
what do i find myself doing whitley i'm

3870
02:47:04,469 --> 02:47:03,269
doing this

3871
02:47:06,950 --> 02:47:04,479
yeah

3872
02:47:09,110 --> 02:47:06,960
oh this guy that was on dreamland uh

3873
02:47:10,469 --> 02:47:09,120
john martin the sweetest guy in the

3874
02:47:12,550 --> 02:47:10,479
world who

3875
02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:12,560
who plays his guitar he's a brilliant

3876
02:47:17,429 --> 02:47:15,359
guitarist and he plays his guitar

3877
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:17,439
he's a classical guitarist i know you'll

3878
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:20,800
be disappointed to hear but nevertheless

3879
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:23,200
i'm kidding uh uh

3880
02:47:26,950 --> 02:47:24,880
he plays his guitar

3881
02:47:28,950 --> 02:47:26,960
and sits out on his porch at night with

3882
02:47:29,910 --> 02:47:28,960
a night vision camera

3883
02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:29,920
and

3884
02:47:35,429 --> 02:47:32,240
ufos show up every night

3885
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:35,439
and he if you hear him on uh you go to

3886
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:37,680
youtube to john martin

3887
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:39,040
and just uh

3888
02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:41,680
youtube on youtube search for him ufo

3889
02:47:45,030 --> 02:47:43,120
and you'll find him

3890
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:45,040
and he's there playing his guitar and

3891
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:47,120
saying oh thank you thank you oh

3892
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:50,000
wonderful one sweet ones it's so

3893
02:47:54,950 --> 02:47:52,720
so sweet and and you know and they're

3894
02:47:57,030 --> 02:47:54,960
coming and they're flashing themselves

3895
02:47:59,110 --> 02:47:57,040
and all this stuff

3896
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:59,120
and uh

3897
02:48:02,469 --> 02:48:00,880
some of them are probably satellites but

3898
02:48:04,230 --> 02:48:02,479
a lot of them are really weird and

3899
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:04,240
they're not satellites

3900
02:48:12,790 --> 02:48:10,230
what if they land

3901
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:12,800
what comes out

3902
02:48:16,950 --> 02:48:14,880
and what happens then

3903
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:16,960
that what's happening now is not

3904
02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:18,720
dangerous

3905
02:48:23,830 --> 02:48:22,319
but and over time if more of us get used

3906
02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:23,840
to this presence

3907
02:48:29,750 --> 02:48:26,000
like he is

3908
02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:29,760
and just take it as part of life

3909
02:48:35,269 --> 02:48:32,640
when they do finally land

3910
02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:35,279
we will have space in ourselves for

3911
02:48:38,950 --> 02:48:37,120
their presence

3912
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,960
and i i think my bottom line we're

3913
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:40,640
getting toward the bottom of the hour

3914
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:41,600
here

3915
02:48:46,870 --> 02:48:44,160
is this that i've talked tonight about a

3916
02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:46,880
lot of things that are scary i've scared

3917
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:48,479
myself which i'm

3918
02:48:53,910 --> 02:48:50,960
all too good at doing and

3919
02:48:55,670 --> 02:48:53,920
but the bottom line is this

3920
02:48:57,590 --> 02:48:55,680
if they had

3921
02:48:59,510 --> 02:48:57,600
not

3922
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:59,520
started ghosting around the way they

3923
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:00,479
have

3924
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:02,960
but it just landed and come walking out

3925
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:05,200
into our midst

3926
02:49:12,230 --> 02:49:08,240
they would i know that would mean they

3927
02:49:15,750 --> 02:49:12,240
were either indifferent to our welfare

3928
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:15,760
or did not want us to succeed

3929
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:19,439
their careful approach over years and

3930
02:49:22,790 --> 02:49:21,600
years

3931
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:22,800
is

3932
02:49:29,429 --> 02:49:25,359
fundamentally the most ethical way they

3933
02:49:35,110 --> 02:49:31,510
it must be because

3934
02:49:37,349 --> 02:49:35,120
uh it's it's it's just not one etc it's

3935
02:49:39,110 --> 02:49:37,359
it's it's got to be many and thousands

3936
02:49:44,150 --> 02:49:39,120
but they've had the opportunity to

3937
02:49:48,710 --> 02:49:46,550
we don't know that we think that

3938
02:49:50,150 --> 02:49:48,720
but we don't know that we do know what

3939
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:50,160
we do know

3940
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:53,439
is after 1947 a hell of a lot of them

3941
02:49:58,950 --> 02:49:56,080
started to show up all of a sudden

3942
02:50:01,830 --> 02:49:58,960
but you know and and we do know if you

3943
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:01,840
read jack vale's books and some others

3944
02:50:07,030 --> 02:50:03,760
we do know that there are stories from

3945
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:07,040
the past that do suggest their presence

3946
02:50:09,830 --> 02:50:08,640
uh

3947
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:09,840
but

3948
02:50:14,309 --> 02:50:11,920
what we don't know

3949
02:50:16,389 --> 02:50:14,319
is if they have been here in very large

3950
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:16,399
numbers for a long time or even if they

3951
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:18,640
were maybe involved in creating us

3952
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:20,560
because i mean look at us

3953
02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:23,120
look at i mean we we don't have much

3954
02:50:26,469 --> 02:50:24,880
hair

3955
02:50:30,550 --> 02:50:26,479
we have

3956
02:50:33,910 --> 02:50:30,560
uh we don't have any sexual seasonality

3957
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:33,920
we have big prominent genitals

3958
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:37,920
men and women and we're very physically

3959
02:50:42,309 --> 02:50:40,319
sensitive to each other

3960
02:50:45,110 --> 02:50:42,319
and we have excellent memories and

3961
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:45,120
imaginations

3962
02:50:50,469 --> 02:50:46,960
we're not like

3963
02:50:52,550 --> 02:50:50,479
like the other primates who only mate a

3964
02:50:54,469 --> 02:50:52,560
few weeks out of the year and have far

3965
02:50:57,269 --> 02:50:54,479
fewer children than we do

3966
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:57,279
we're ready to go at any time

3967
02:51:01,030 --> 02:50:59,200
i mean you're ready to go right now i'm

3968
02:51:02,710 --> 02:51:01,040
ready to go right now the audience is

3969
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:02,720
ready to go right now we're always ready

3970
02:51:07,030 --> 02:51:04,479
to go

3971
02:51:08,710 --> 02:51:07,040
and that's totally different

3972
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:08,720
it's totally different from the other

3973
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:10,560
primates

3974
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:12,240
we're different

3975
02:51:17,429 --> 02:51:14,479
so did someone come in and

3976
02:51:20,870 --> 02:51:17,439
diddle with us and make us like this

3977
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:20,880
and why the hell don't we have hair

3978
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:22,080
no one

3979
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:25,120
else in the whole animal world

3980
02:51:29,429 --> 02:51:28,000
is like us in this respect

3981
02:51:32,469 --> 02:51:29,439
we're

3982
02:51:33,590 --> 02:51:32,479
strangely hairless

3983
02:51:35,510 --> 02:51:33,600
we are

3984
02:51:38,630 --> 02:51:35,520
we have these

3985
02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:38,640
these decorative head head gear on our

3986
02:51:43,190 --> 02:51:40,960
heads it's decorative i mean why doesn't

3987
02:51:45,110 --> 02:51:43,200
my hair go down over my face a whole

3988
02:51:48,309 --> 02:51:45,120
face like a like an

3989
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:48,319
like an apes why do i have this clean

3990
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:50,080
face uh you know i don't happen to have

3991
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:51,200
a beard

3992
02:51:55,510 --> 02:51:54,080
but uh i could have but women never have

3993
02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:55,520
a beard

3994
02:52:04,940 --> 02:51:59,200
and so you know we're much more exposed

3995
02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:13,190
[Music]

3996
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:15,110
a available

3997
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:17,429
cannot understand

3998
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:19,760
what a coin is

3999
02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:26,389
where

4000
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:29,680
anything came from a chimpanzee cannot

4001
02:52:34,469 --> 02:52:32,560
begin to understand how to read

4002
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:34,479
something

4003
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:36,960
anything like that

4004
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:38,399
we are

4005
02:52:42,070 --> 02:52:39,359
like

4006
02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:42,080
i'm gonna say it from a different world

4007
02:52:47,349 --> 02:52:44,399
yeah yeah completely

4008
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:47,359
unique different world yeah completely

4009
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:49,600
unique and then totally dominating the

4010
02:52:53,590 --> 02:52:50,560
planet

4011
02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:53,600
and we're having a massive population

4012
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:56,640
it's catastrophic population explosion

4013
02:53:01,750 --> 02:52:59,279
that is causing us to start shooting at

4014
02:53:03,670 --> 02:53:01,760
each other and killing each other

4015
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:03,680
because there's too many of us and

4016
02:53:07,750 --> 02:53:05,680
instincts are kicking in and we're

4017
02:53:09,910 --> 02:53:07,760
justifying it i've been reading barbara

4018
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:09,920
tuchman's book up the guns of august

4019
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:12,479
because i feel like we're sort of in the

4020
02:53:17,670 --> 02:53:14,560
in a situation where we could easily be

4021
02:53:19,269 --> 02:53:17,680
in the in the beginning of a world war

4022
02:53:22,550 --> 02:53:19,279
and uh

4023
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:22,560
you can see in the things that kaiser

4024
02:53:29,510 --> 02:53:26,160
was saying in 1904 and 1906

4025
02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:29,520
that he felt the germans he was

4026
02:53:34,550 --> 02:53:31,840
reflecting the german people's

4027
02:53:36,469 --> 02:53:34,560
instinctive feeling of being trapped by

4028
02:53:39,349 --> 02:53:36,479
the world around them because their

4029
02:53:41,670 --> 02:53:39,359
population was growing and they they

4030
02:53:43,110 --> 02:53:41,680
couldn't expand

4031
02:53:45,670 --> 02:53:43,120
and then

4032
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:45,680
they lose the war

4033
02:53:50,950 --> 02:53:48,800
they go essentially mad

4034
02:53:52,950 --> 02:53:50,960
and they decide

4035
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:52,960
we are not going to

4036
02:53:58,070 --> 02:53:55,279
take this anymore

4037
02:53:59,830 --> 02:53:58,080
we are going to steal europe from the

4038
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:59,840
europeans and we are going to steal

4039
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:01,680
russia from the russians

4040
02:54:07,030 --> 02:54:03,920
and they go on the biggest mugging

4041
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:07,040
expedition in human history

4042
02:54:10,389 --> 02:54:08,880
and now they've worked it out and

4043
02:54:11,590 --> 02:54:10,399
they're you know they've accepted the

4044
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:11,600
fact that

4045
02:54:15,830 --> 02:54:13,760
that's not a good idea

4046
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:15,840
but not putin he hasn't accepted it and

4047
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:18,160
he's he's pushing against the west

4048
02:54:26,150 --> 02:54:21,520
because he feels confined

4049
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:27,110
just

4050
02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:33,190
the chinese would want to have a chat

4051
02:54:37,670 --> 02:54:35,600
about that

4052
02:54:39,830 --> 02:54:37,680
whitley what a great conversation my

4053
02:54:40,870 --> 02:54:39,840
friend and and thank you for taking the

4054
02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:40,880
time

4055
02:54:47,349 --> 02:54:44,640
um uh before we go i know uh you're on

4056
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:47,359
uh kunx with us here

4057
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:49,840
on on the x and that appears on friday

4058
02:54:54,469 --> 02:54:52,160
when do you when do you put out your new

4059
02:54:56,550 --> 02:54:54,479
shows each week my new shows thank you

4060
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:56,560
for asking about my show

4061
02:54:59,990 --> 02:54:58,000
it exists

4062
02:55:02,070 --> 02:55:00,000
it's called dreamland

4063
02:55:03,830 --> 02:55:02,080
it's a great show i've been doing it

4064
02:55:06,950 --> 02:55:03,840
since

4065
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:06,960
you were a little boy

4066
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:08,479
and

4067
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:09,840
it is

4068
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:10,800
uh

4069
02:55:14,950 --> 02:55:13,120
right now this week

4070
02:55:19,349 --> 02:55:14,960
the first time

4071
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:19,359
ever a cia officer who has

4072
02:55:26,790 --> 02:55:23,120
publicly discussed and has had

4073
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:26,800
et experiences jim semivan

4074
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:28,720
is on the show

4075
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:29,520
and

4076
02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:33,200
he answered the questions of the public

4077
02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:35,760
uh not of the general public but of my

4078
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:37,439
subscribers

4079
02:55:41,030 --> 02:55:39,760
they could ask him any question for an

4080
02:55:43,190 --> 02:55:41,040
hour and a half

4081
02:55:45,910 --> 02:55:43,200
he answered them all

4082
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:45,920
and that is our show this week

4083
02:55:49,750 --> 02:55:48,080
and it's absolutely fascinating for two

4084
02:55:52,710 --> 02:55:49,760
reasons first

4085
02:55:55,670 --> 02:55:52,720
the questions are fabulous

4086
02:55:57,190 --> 02:55:55,680
the the listeners get it

4087
02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:57,200
our people

4088
02:56:02,469 --> 02:56:00,720
get it they are highly sophisticated you

4089
02:56:04,790 --> 02:56:02,479
remember that question you put up at the

4090
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:04,800
beginning was a brilliant question

4091
02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:07,920
and that's what we are we are doing this

4092
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:10,080
and we are succeeding

4093
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,840
and jim's answers are excellent and very

4094
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:15,120
forthright

4095
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:18,800
and not he's not hiding things at all

4096
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:21,040
it's a huge moment in history happening

4097
02:56:23,990 --> 02:56:22,080
here

4098
02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:24,000
because jim's not the only one

4099
02:56:27,590 --> 02:56:26,479
john martinez is on the show from time

4100
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:27,600
to time and

4101
02:56:33,510 --> 02:56:30,720
he is also a cia officer who

4102
02:56:36,550 --> 02:56:33,520
has had extraordinary experiences and

4103
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:36,560
he's talked he talks about him and uh

4104
02:56:40,070 --> 02:56:37,840
uh

4105
02:56:43,110 --> 02:56:40,080
there's others and you know loose i

4106
02:56:44,309 --> 02:56:43,120
think lou elizondo who will not go on my

4107
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:44,319
show

4108
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:45,840
he's scared of me

4109
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:48,080
he's not scared of you

4110
02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:51,200
therefore you should be very afraid

4111
02:56:52,950 --> 02:56:52,000
right

4112
02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:52,960
well

4113
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:56,800
uh and uh jim semivan uh afraid of me

4114
02:57:00,870 --> 02:56:58,640
but he's on your show

4115
02:57:03,190 --> 02:57:00,880
and we will go on my your show but he

4116
02:57:05,030 --> 02:57:03,200
will go on mine and lou will will go on

4117
02:57:08,870 --> 02:57:05,040
yours what are they trying to tell us

4118
02:57:11,510 --> 02:57:08,880
here do i hidden message yeah yeah and i

4119
02:57:14,389 --> 02:57:11,520
love it i i can't wait uh to listen to

4120
02:57:15,910 --> 02:57:14,399
your conversation with jimmy van and and

4121
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:15,920
when i saw that he was going to be on

4122
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:18,160
dreamland i just stopped and thought man

4123
02:57:25,190 --> 02:57:22,960
that it whitley is the perfect host to

4124
02:57:27,590 --> 02:57:25,200
to ask the right things and to move this

4125
02:57:29,590 --> 02:57:27,600
forward and i i can't wait to

4126
02:57:31,750 --> 02:57:29,600
to to hear your conversation with him

4127
02:57:33,830 --> 02:57:31,760
i'm being very serious

4128
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:33,840
oh thanks well it's a good one and it's

4129
02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:35,600
going to be on until

4130
02:57:39,990 --> 02:57:37,600
well it's for for the

4131
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:40,000
the free part is on now until friday and

4132
02:57:43,030 --> 02:57:41,760
you can watch it on my youtube channel

4133
02:57:44,309 --> 02:57:43,040
which is

4134
02:57:47,870 --> 02:57:44,319
users

4135
02:57:50,230 --> 02:57:47,880
forward slash wstreever or you can go to

4136
02:57:52,230 --> 02:57:50,240
unknowncountry.com and and click on it

4137
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:52,240
there and you get the whole show we i

4138
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:54,640
didn't usually the subscribers get more

4139
02:57:59,830 --> 02:57:56,720
of a show than the non-subscribers but

4140
02:58:02,710 --> 02:57:59,840
this time i felt like it's too important

4141
02:58:04,630 --> 02:58:02,720
that everyone should have this that what

4142
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:04,640
having to without having to pay for it

4143
02:58:09,990 --> 02:58:07,120
so i've said it a hundred times

4144
02:58:13,030 --> 02:58:10,000
unknown country is the reason

4145
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:13,040
to have the internet

4146
02:58:19,830 --> 02:58:15,520
well it might be that fade to black

4147
02:58:21,429 --> 02:58:19,840
is part of the reason too uh you know

4148
02:58:24,469 --> 02:58:21,439
and there's a lot i mean there's linda

4149
02:58:26,230 --> 02:58:24,479
with her files and coast is out there

4150
02:58:27,590 --> 02:58:26,240
there's a lot of good stuff out there

4151
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:27,600
really is

4152
02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:29,359
we're very

4153
02:58:33,030 --> 02:58:31,200
whitley thank you so much my friend

4154
02:58:35,670 --> 02:58:33,040
enjoy the rest of your night happy

4155
02:58:37,349 --> 02:58:35,680
meditating that goes down in an hour and

4156
02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:37,359
then you've got your three

4157
02:58:42,550 --> 02:58:39,840
that it will happen tonight as it does

4158
02:58:44,469 --> 02:58:42,560
every night and thanks for having me and

4159
02:58:45,349 --> 02:58:44,479
welcome to the world of video it's great

4160
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:45,359
to see

4161
02:58:48,469 --> 02:58:47,120
both of us side by side like this

4162
02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:48,479
although you freaked me out when you

4163
02:58:53,030 --> 02:58:50,000
left me with the whole thing it was

4164
02:58:54,950 --> 02:58:53,040
weird yeah and i'll do it again too oh

4165
02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:54,960
yeah i know you will

4166
02:59:00,790 --> 02:58:57,760
behave my friend have a great night and

4167
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:00,800
thank you so much you too

4168
02:59:05,349 --> 02:59:04,160
whitley strieber again everybody it's so

4169
02:59:07,590 --> 02:59:05,359
simple to do

4170
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:07,600
unknown country.com

4171
02:59:11,710 --> 02:59:10,560
and strieber.com and of course youtube

4172
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,720
everything is over at

4173
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:13,760
jimmychurchradio.com we've got it

4174
02:59:19,510 --> 02:59:16,640
throughout social media what a great

4175
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:19,520
conversation tonight and uh everybody in

4176
02:59:23,910 --> 02:59:22,240
the chat you guys are absolutely amazing

4177
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:23,920
thank you so much

4178
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:26,399
and uh tomorrow night

4179
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:29,520
tomorrow night right here scott walter

4180
02:59:33,110 --> 02:59:31,359
it's going to be a great show

4181
02:59:35,670 --> 02:59:33,120
fade to black is produced by hilton j

4182
02:59:38,630 --> 02:59:35,680
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4183
02:59:42,070 --> 02:59:38,640
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4184
02:59:43,429 --> 02:59:42,080
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4185
02:59:47,910 --> 02:59:43,439
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4186
02:59:50,309 --> 02:59:47,920
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4187
02:59:52,389 --> 02:59:50,319
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4188
02:59:54,790 --> 02:59:52,399
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4189
02:59:56,230 --> 02:59:54,800
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4190
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4191
03:00:00,550 --> 02:59:58,800
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4192
03:00:02,309 --> 03:00:00,560
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4193
03:00:03,750 --> 03:00:02,319
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4194
03:00:05,030 --> 03:00:03,760
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4195
03:00:07,910 --> 03:00:05,040
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4196
03:00:09,830 --> 03:00:07,920
jimmy church i'll see everybody tomorrow

4197
03:00:11,190 --> 03:00:09,840
night with scott walter

4198
03:00:13,750 --> 03:00:11,200
until then

4199
03:00:20,680 --> 03:00:13,760
i want you to be safe